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   Kommentar till text 6346 av Ellen K (1:379/45)
Ärende: Re: MS Antispyware uses VB6 runtime?
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From: "Gary Britt" <zotu@nospamforme.com>

Ellen, you should give TameDos a try.  It runs on win2K & XP and will solve
many problems regarding running dos apps under windows.  CPU polling, printing
problems, file locking problems, make them multi-user off a network server,
etc.

Gary

"Ellen K" <Ellen.K@harborwebs.com> wrote in message
news:d08dea.fa8339@harborwebs.com...
> Our old Clipper app is the main reason we still have a lot of folks on
Win98.
>
> > From: "Robert Comer" <bobcomer_removeme@mindspring.com>
> > I don't know about that, but it is definitely worth a shot. I've tried
to
> > help corporate before with it and they are definitely stubborn about
such
> > things.
> > - Bob Comer <They're French...>
> > "Gary Britt" <zotu@nospamforme.com> wrote in message
> > news:42e4f9dc@w3.nls.net...
> >> Might just make you a hero at work!! <g>
> >>
> >> Gary
> >>
> >> "Robert Comer" <bobcomer@mindspring.com> wrote in message
> >> news:42e46b74$1@w3.nls.net...
> >>> > Try a program called TameDos that will help tremendously with your
> >> clipper
> >>> > dos app stuff on any version of windows.  www.tamedos.com
> >>>
> >>> Thanks, I'll look at that.
> >>>
> >>> - Bob Comer
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> "Gary Britt" <zotu@nospamforme.com> wrote in message
> >>> news:42e4520f$1@w3.nls.net...
> >>> > Try a program called TameDos that will help tremendously with your
> >> clipper
> >>> > dos app stuff on any version of windows.  www.tamedos.com
> >>> >
> >>> > A new version 5 is due out soon.  Will be a free upgrade if you buy
> >>> > now.
> >>> > You can try it 30 days for free.  Should solve your problems.
> >>> >
> >>> > Gary
> >>> >
> >>> > "Robert Comer" <bobcomer@mindspring.com> wrote in message
> >>> > news:42e44541$1@w3.nls.net...
> >>> >> > There are way too many applications out there written in VB6 for
> >>> >> > them
> >>> >> > to
> >>> >> > make it impossible to run VB6 apps,
> >>> >>
> >>> >> All I can say is they made a dreadful decision in not having a
clear
> >>> > upgrade
> >>> >> path, it's the first development tools/language vendor I've ever
known
> >> to
> >>> > do
> >>> >> that, and there's probably more VB6 coders out there right now than
> >>> >> any
> >>> >> other language.
> >>> >>
> >>> >> It just doesn't make business sense to trust that VB6 stuff will
keep
> >>> >> running.
> >>> >>
> >>> >> >heck, it's still possible to run DOS
> >>> >> > apps.
> >>> >>
> >>> >> Our parent company is having serious problems keeping their DOS
> >>> >> clipper
> >>> > app
> >>> >> running on XP, memory issues that weren't there before...
> >>> >>
> >>> >> >And .Net has "COM Interop".
> >>> >>
> >>> >> That doesn't help upgrading VB6 code all that much. (That help in
> >> calling
> >>> >> old COM components from vb.net)
> >>> >>
> >>> >> - Bob Comer
> >>> >>
> >>> >>
> >>> >> "Ellen K." <72322.1016@compuserve.com> wrote in message
> >>> >> news:7oe8e15569eq6ortjohk7aaenqkmb6dg6g@4ax.com...
> >>> >> > There are way too many applications out there written in VB6 for
> >>> >> > them
> >>> >> > to
> >>> >> > make it impossible to run VB6 apps, heck, it's still possible to
run
> >>> >> > DOS
> >>> >> > apps.  And .Net has "COM Interop".
> >>> >> >
> >>> >> > On Sun, 24 Jul 2005 16:12:30 -0400, "Robert Comer"
> >>> >> > <bobcomer@mindspring.com> wrote in message
<42e3f4f7$1@w3.nls.net>:
> >>> >> >
> >>> >> >>> I'm not saying use the upgrade wizard rather than rewrite, I'm
> >> saying
> >>> >> >>> leave it in VB6.
> >>> >> >>
> >>> >> >>As I've said before, there's no guarantee the VB6 development
> >>> > environment
> >>> >> >>will continue to function *now*, much less in the future. (sure,
you
> >>> >> >>can
> >>> >> >>get
> >>> >> >>paid for support if it breaks, but it's not cheap)  And as anyone
> >> knows
> >>> >> >>with
> >>> >> >>corporate environments, you need to be able to fix this as
business
> >>> > rules
> >>> >> >>change, or there are bugs discovered.  And past longhorn, there's
no
> >>> >> >>guarantee the VB6 runtime will function ever. (and only a
nebulous
> >>> >> >>guarantee
> >>> >> >>it'll be supported in longhorn)
> >>> >> >>
> >>> >> >>To sum it up, it's to high a risk *not* to rewrite it.
> >>> >> >>
> >>> >> >>- Bob Comer
> >>> >> >>
> >>> >> >>
> >>> >> >>
> >>> >> >>
> >>> >> >>"Ellen K." <72322.1016@compuserve.com> wrote in message
> >>> >> >>news:urs7e11kqsqbusrpem0uom8osd2vm0nqgb@4ax.com...
> >>> >> >>> I'm not saying use the upgrade wizard rather than rewrite, I'm
> >> saying
> >>> >> >>> leave it in VB6.
> >>> >> >>>
> >>> >> >>> On Sun, 24 Jul 2005 09:02:08 -0400, "Robert Comer"
> >>> >> >>> <bobcomer@mindspring.com> wrote in message
<42e3901a@w3.nls.net>:
> >>> >> >>>
> >>> >> >>>>>I don't think you have to rewrite your old stuff.
> >>> >> >>>>
> >>> >> >>>>If you want it to run well you do.  The changes between VB6 and
> >>> >> >>>>VB.NET
> >>> >> >>>>is
> >>> >> >>>>massive.  Running it through the VB.NET upgrade wizard does not
> >>> >> >>>>get
> >>> > you
> >>> >> >>>>a
> >>> >> >>>>working program if the program is any more advanced than a
"Hello
> >>> > world"
> >>> >> >>>>type.  Sure, given a lot of time you can fix the differences,
but
> >>> >> >>>>that
> >>> >> >>>>same
> >>> >> >>>>amount of time can most likely be taken to do a rewrite using
all
> >> the
> >>> >> >>>>new
> >>> >> >>>>stuff (or a different language altogether.)
> >>> >> >>>>
> >>> >> >>>>- Bob Comer
> >>> >> >>>>
> >>> >> >>>>
> >>> >> >>>>"Ellen K." <72322.1016@compuserve.com> wrote in message
> >>> >> >>>>news:din6e1hna3158pa89es1380tal3lkvt7bd@4ax.com...
> >>> >> >>>>>I don't think you have to rewrite your old stuff.
> >>> >> >>>>>
> >>> >> >>>>> On Sat, 23 Jul 2005 06:54:36 -0400, "Robert Comer"
> >>> >> >>>>> <bobcomer@mindspring.com> wrote in message
> >> <42e22095$1@w3.nls.net>:
> >>> >> >>>>>
> >>> >> >>>>>>> If the spyware product they acquired was not based on
VB.NET,
> >> how
> >>> >> >>>>>>> can
> >>> >> >>>>>>> they
> >>> >> >>>>>>> be asking why MS is not using VB.NET? Did they expect MS to
> >>> > rewrite
> >>> >> >>>>>>> it?
> >>> >> >>>>>>
> >>> >> >>>>>>Actually yes, everyone should expect them to rewrite it,
after
> >> all,
> >>> >> >>>>>>Microsoft told all those millions of VB6 developers out there
> >> that
> >>> >> >>>>>>they
> >>> >> >>>>>>had
> >>> >> >>>>>>to rewrite their apps by deadending VB6 like they did.
> >>> >> >>>>>>
> >>> >> >>>>>>>Did VB.NET even exist when the product development began?
> >>> >> >>>>>>
> >>> >> >>>>>>It didn't exist when all our VB5/VB6 code was written, but so
> >> what,
> >>> >> >>>>>>that
> >>> >> >>>>>>doesn't mean that I don't have to rewrite everything to
insure
> >>> >> >>>>>>it
> >>> >> >>>>>>keeps
> >>> >> >>>>>>working in the future.
> >>> >> >>>>>>
> >>> >> >>>>>>- Bob Comer
> >>> >> >>>>>>
> >>> >> >>>>>>
> >>> >> >>>>>>"Gregg N" <invalid@invalid.invalid> wrote in message
> >>> >> >>>>>>news:42e1bdf1$1@w3.nls.net...
> >>> >> >>>>>>> Rich Gauszka wrote:
> >>> >> >>>>>>>
> >>> >> >>>>>>>>Microsoft acquired Giant, the company that produced the
> >>> >> >>>>>>>>Spyware
> >>> >> >>>>>>>>detection
> >>> >> >>>>>>>>program, in December 2004, and lost no time in making it
> >>> >> >>>>>>>>available
> >>> >> >>>>>>>>to
> >>> >> >>>>>>>>users the following month.
> >>> >> >>>>>>>>
> >>> >> >>>>>>>>"This whole issue begs the question," writes our reader,
"why
> >> is
> >>> >> >>>>>>>>Microsoft
> >>> >> >>>>>>>>using an unsupported development environment against their
own
> >>> >> >>>>>>>>guidelines?
> >>> >> >>>>>>>>Just another case of' 'Do what I say, not what I do'...
> >>> >> >>>>>>>>
> >>> >> >>>>>>> If the spyware product they acquired was not based on
VB.NET,
> >> how
> >>> >> >>>>>>> can
> >>> >> >>>>>>> they
> >>> >> >>>>>>> be asking why MS is not using VB.NET? Did they expect MS to
> >>> > rewrite
> >>> >> >>>>>>> it?
> >>> >> >>>>>>> Did VB.NET even exist when the product development began?
> >>> >> >>>>>>>
> >>> >> >>>>>>> Gregg
> >>> >> >>>>>>
> >>> >> >>>>>
> >>> >> >>>>
> >>> >> >>>
> >>> >> >>
> >>> >> >
> >>> >>
> >>> >>
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
> >>

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