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Ärende: Re: TPM
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From: "Geo" <georger@nls.net>
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I didn't say TPM's are built into the Pentium D as I NEVER EVEN USE THE = TERM
"TPM", I said it contains DRM. Stop being such an ass.
Geo.
"Rich" <@> wrote in message news:4311f9f3@w3.nls.net...
Your bogus claims regarding DRM were in regard to TPMs. You are =
wrong that TPMs are built in to the Pentium D. Again, your spreading =
misinformation makes you look like an idiot. You should read up only = this
from from honest credible sources.
Rich
"Geo" <georger@nls.net> wrote in message news:4311e782@w3.nls.net...
I'm only trying to comment on what you are claiming about ME with =
your "what George likes to call DRM" comment. If anyone here is guilty = of
spreading misinformation, it's you, I'm correcting that = misinformation..
Geo.
"Rich" <@> wrote in message news:4311df6d$1@w3.nls.net...
I'm neither talking up or talking down TPMs. Your spreading =
misinformation or making claims based on misinformation isn't going to = help
you make a point. It just makes you look like an idiot.
Rich
"Geo" <georger@nls.net> wrote in message =
news:4311ddfb@w3.nls.net...
You are the one talking up TPM, i'm talking about your comment =
quoted for your convenience below, on my view of DRM which is what I'm = saying
the CPU now contains. I could care less to get limited in scope = to only TPM
as that could be something as simple as encryption or a = watermark.
Geo.
"Rich" <@> wrote in message news:4311d082$1@w3.nls.net...
The TPM is not in the CPU. You need honest and accurate =
sources of info. Neither link you give is.
Rich
"Geo" <georger@nls.net> wrote in message =
news:4311b913@w3.nls.net...
"Robert Comer" <bobcomer@mindspring.com> wrote in message
news:4310dbd2@w3.nls.net...
> VT is virtualization. LT is security. Neither is =
what george
likes
> to
> call DRM.
Initially the idea that the TCPA had was to add a TPM chip, =
since then they
have decided to integrate it directly into the CPU. Pentium =
D is the first
of these CPUs.
Here's the problem:
http://www.cl.cam.ac.uk/~rja14/tcpa-faq-0.2.html
and
http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/can-you-trust.html
Rich can spin it any way he likes but anyone who reads =
either of those
articles above will have a pretty clear understanding of my =
issues with it.
Geo.
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I didn't say TPM's are built into the =
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Geo.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV>"Rich" <@> wrote in message <A=20
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2> Your bogus claims =
regarding DRM were=20
in regard to TPMs. You are wrong that TPMs are built in to the =
Pentium=20
D. Again, your spreading misinformation makes you look like =
an=20
idiot. You should read up only this from from honest credible=20
sources.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Rich</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I'm only trying to comment on what =
you are=20
claiming about ME with your "what George likes to call DRM" comment. =
If=20
anyone here is guilty of spreading misinformation, it's you, I'm =
correcting=20
that misinformation..</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Geo.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2> I'm neither talking =
up or=20
talking down TPMs. Your spreading misinformation or making =
claims=20
based on misinformation isn't going to help you make a =
point. It=20
just makes you look like an idiot.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Rich</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>You are the one talking up TPM, =
i'm talking=20
about your comment quoted for your convenience below, on =
my view=20
of DRM which is what I'm saying the CPU now contains. I could =
care less=20
to get limited in scope to only TPM as that could be something =
as simple=20
as encryption or a watermark.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Geo.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV>"Rich" <@> wrote in message <A=20
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2> The TPM is not =
in the=20
CPU. You need honest and accurate sources of info. =
Neither=20
link you give is.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Rich</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV>"Geo" <<A=20
href=3D"mailto:georger@nls.net">georger@nls.net</A>> =
wrote in=20
message <A=20
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href=3D"news:4311b913@w3.nls.net">news:4311b913@w3.nls.net</A>...</DIV>"R=
obert=20
Comer" <<A=20
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href=3D"mailto:bobcomer@mindspring.com">bobcomer@mindspring.com</A>>=20
wrote in message<BR><A=20
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href=3D"news:4310dbd2@w3.nls.net">news:4310dbd2@w3.nls.net</A>...<BR><BR>=
> =20
VT is virtualization. LT is security. Neither is =
what=20
george<BR>likes<BR>> to<BR>> =
call=20
DRM.<BR><BR>Initially the idea that the TCPA had was to add =
a TPM=20
chip, since then they<BR>have decided to integrate it =
directly into=20
the CPU. Pentium D is the first<BR>of these =
CPUs.<BR><BR>Here's the=20
problem:<BR><BR><A=20
=
href=3D"http://www.cl.cam.ac.uk/~rja14/tcpa-faq-0.2.html">http://www.cl.c=
am.ac.uk/~rja14/tcpa-faq-0.2.html</A><BR><BR>and<BR><BR><A=20
=
href=3D"http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/can-you-trust.html">http://www.gnu.=
org/philosophy/can-you-trust.html</A><BR><BR>Rich=20
can spin it any way he likes but anyone who reads either of=20
those<BR>articles above will have a pretty clear =
understanding of my=20
issues with=20
=
it.<BR><BR>Geo.<BR><BR></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOT=
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