Text 10814, 80 rader
Skriven 2005-04-01 02:17:16 av Ed Hulett (1:123/789.0)
  Kommentar till text 10730 av Max Kohn (1:18/200)
Ärende: Bo Gritz
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Max Kohn -> Ed Hulett wrote:
 MK> *** Quoting Ed Hulett from a message to John Hull ***

 JH>> Respect for human life is a laudable thing, but part of that respect
 JH>> also includes the decisions that sometimes have to be made to let
 JH>> somebody go.

 EH>> Only when that person dies on their own, John. Not when someone
 EH>> orders they be starved to death.

 MK> Bingo!  My point exactly.  She's being executed and nobody can see that.
 MK> That's the horrible part.

Well, she passed this morning.

 EH>> You can't preach to me about letting someone go. I had to do that
 EH>> with both my father and my mother. Their wishes were that no heroic
 EH>> measures be made to keep them alive. Their wishes were observed. That
 EH>> isn't the same thing with Terri Schiavo, thoug. A feeding tube isn't
 EH>> heroic measures. There is a fine line between respecting the wishes
 EH>> of the person not to use heroic measures and out right killing them.
 EH>> That line has been crossed with regard to Terri Schiavo. To deprive
 EH>> her of food and water is worse than if they'd have took a pistol and
 EH>> shot her between the eyes.

 MK> Bingo again!  What's the problem with keeping the feeding tube in her and
 MK> putting her in physical therapy and getting an MRI done?  When God wants
her,
 MK> He'll take her.  Who made the courts and Michael, God?  I sure didn't. 
The
 MK> feeding tube is NOT heroic measures.  What is being done to Terri is slow
 MK> torture followed by an equally slow death.  I swear to God if my family
did
 MK> that to me, I'd haunt them until THEY died.

They will all be judged when their time comes. I doubt they will be judged
kindly.

I hope Michael's life is miserable from here on out.

 EH>> She is going through a long and painful death. If her wishes were
 EH>> that she not be kept alive by heroic measures (that's what a living
 EH>> will says) then her wishes are NOT being followed.

 MK> I just downloaded the Illinois (where I live) power of authority forms and
 MK> living will forms.  Oddly in both forms, there's a comment section so you
can
 MK> specify what you want for specific situations.  Maybe the forms have been
 MK> updated due to the Terri Schiavo case.  I don't know for sure.

They have been like that for several years at least.

 MK> I'll speak only for me now.  If I were in Terri's place, I'd want the
feeding
 MK> tube left in me.  I would ask that no heroic measures to keep me alive
were to
 MK> be done but a feeding tube is not a heroic measure.  When either my heart
or
 MK> lungs stop working, I'm ready to die but not before then.  Don't stick a
 MK> respirator on me.  I'll haunt my family if they do that.  If I'm totally
brain
 MK> dead (and I've seen total brain death..my uncle had a stroke and he was
100%
 MK> brain dead..Terri is NOT...she has some brain activity. A person with 100%
 MK> brain death is NOT conscious at all), don't put a ventilator on me. When
the
 MK> brain stem dies next, it will end my life at that point.  My uncle was on
a
 MK> ventilator for a couple of days and when they realized his brain was
 MK> completely dead, they ("they" being my aunt and her kids) took him off and
let
 MK> him die peacefully.  He was in his middle 50s when he died.

The Pope is currently in the hospital with a feeding tube down his throat. You
can bet that he will not be starved to death like Terri was.

Ed

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