Text 21076, 117 rader
Skriven 2006-07-17 22:53:46 av John Hull (1:123/789.0)
  Kommentar till text 21069 av Gary Braswell (1:123/789.0)
Ärende: Good read
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Gary Braswell -> BOB SAKOWSKI wrote:
 GB> BOB SAKOWSKI -> GARY BRASWELL wrote:
 -=>>> GARY BRASWELL wrote to BOB SAKOWSKI <=-

 GB>>> Terrorists operate in civilian areas. They often
 GB>>> have training areas, headquarters, production
 GB>>> facilities, etc.

 BS>> The fact still remains Gary, that the military arm of Hezbollah
 BS>> captured the Israeli GIs in a purely military operation.  They
 BS>> did not kill innocent civilians, Israel in its totally
 BS>> disproportioned response, did.

 GB> How do you hit terrorists that hide among innocent civilians?

 BS>> That Israel had a right to respond is not in question.  It is
 BS>> manner and intensity of the response which is.

 GB> Ok, you outline it for us.


 BS>> FTR Gary, use of a disproportionate response, in a indiscriminate
 BS>> manner is but one of many that are addressed by the Geneva Accords.

 GB> I am aware of that, but this house of cards you are putting together to
 GB> justify this as some violation of the accords is bogus.

 GB>>> The person who wrote what is below is naive, uninformed,
 GB>>> ignorant and an idealist,

 BS>> Larry Johnson is:

 BS>> Larry C. Johnson is CEO and co-founder of BERG Associates, LLC,
 BS>> an international business-consulting firm that helps corporations
 BS>> and governments manage threats posed by terrorism and money
 BS>> laundering. Mr. Johnson works with US military commands in
 BS>> scripting terrorism exercises, briefs foreign governments on
 BS>> a regular basis on terrorist trends, and conducts undercover
 BS>> investigations on product counterfeiting and smuggling.

 GB> The guy has impressive credentials.

 GB> I remember the guy after I read your litany of his jobs, etc.

 GB> I have read some of his work years ago after seeing him as one of the
 GB> many "experts" trotted out just after 9/11.

 GB> He has a fundamental flaw in his thinking about terrorism and as a
 GB> result, he got bit along with all the others when 9/11 came.

 GB> Johnson views terrorism as a purely tactical problem, not a strategic
 GB> one, thus his criticism for Israel's use of massive force.

 GB> Its true that much of terrorism had been dealt with with CTUs like the
 GB> SAS, GSG-9, etc in the past during the 70s and 80s and that they were
 GB> mostly controlled and sponsored by the USSR.

 GB> With the end of the cold war, Johnson's reasoning failed to change. He
 GB> even viewed state sponsored terrorism (the USSR) as not a strategic
 GB> threat. It was not under the USSR.

 GB> However with Libya, Iran and Syria, terrorism became means to strategic
 GB> ends. Especially with the advent of more powerful and simple-to-use
 GB> weapon systems that began to come online in the 80s and 90s with
 GB> potential for more damage and images being able to manipulate the media
 GB> and governments. It became strategic. With militaries unable to stand up
 GB> to Western powers, terrorism became standard policy.

 GB> Johnson wrote an article in 2001, Larry C. Johnson, "The Declining
 GB> Terrorist Threat," New York Times.

 GB> "They seem to believe that terrorism is the greatest threat to the
 GB> United States and that it is becoming more widespread and lethal. They
 GB> are likely to think that the United States is the most popular target of
 GB> terrorists. And they almost certainly have the impression that extremist
 GB> Islamic groups cause most terrorism. None of these beliefs are based in
 GB> fact."

 GB> A few months later we get hit with 9/11. Any attack that kills so many
 GB> people is not a tactical one, nor is a terrorist using or seeking WMD, a
 GB> tactical threat.

 GB> Johnson stands by his article even today stating he never said we should
 GB> ignore terrorism. He even mentioned in years past that OBL and Al Qaeda
 GB> were the premier threats in terrorism.

 GB> His major flaw is not dismissing terrorism, but diminishing it to
 GB> something a state should not have to worry about too much. Its a
 GB> tactical thing. Send a squad of the SAS in to root the roaches out and
 GB> be done with it.

 GB> Its that kind of thinking that allowed terrorism to recover after the
 GB> 70s and we, the US made terrorism just a law enforcement issue to be
 GB> dealt with.

 GB> Al Qeda grew because few took it seriously as any kind of a threat.

 GB> Hezbollah and Hamas are controlled by Iran and Syria. They use them as
 GB> instruments of policy. Not as small time harassment.

 GB> Terrorists hide and work among and behind innocent people.

 GB> Those innocents will die.

 GB> The terrorists bank on it, either by their hand or their enemey's hand.

 GB> When you come up with a plan to only kill terrorists, get back to me.

 GB> We will bring it before the world and rightfully so be considered heroes.



I hope you aren't holding your breath because you will never get any kind of
plan out of him.  He's far too busy running his mouth about how bad Bush is.

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