Text 24148, 100 rader
Skriven 2006-10-30 15:27:59 av Gary Braswell (1:123/789.0)
  Kommentar till text 24147 av John Hull (1:123/789.0)
Ärende: Election
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John Hull -> Gary Braswell wrote:
 JH> Gary Braswell -> RICHARD HELM wrote:


 RH>>> One process that the Democratic Party hopes to win the majority in
 JH> the
 RH>>> coming election is by discouraging Republican voters confidence in
 GB>> their
 RH>>> elected representatives and NOT vote on or before Nov 7.  *IF* that
 GB>> happens
 RH>>> then by text book definition the Democratic Party HAS aided the
 GB>> terrorists.

 GB>> That is one process and not a new one. I don't happen to agree with
 JH> it.
 GB>> But why it is done makes the difference. I doubt the Democratic
 JH> party is
 GB>> doing it because the terrorists have said lack of Republican voter
 GB>> turnout will help us win.

 JH> If the Democrat Party cared a damn about what it stood for, knowing that
 JH> the terrorists preferred it to the GOP, they would change their
 JH> platform.  That they don't says to me they don't give a damn.

How can you really know what the terrorists prefer? And of so, why would they
vocalize it?


 GB>> Terrorists have stated their preference of what party is elected
 JH> and the
 GB>> parties are using the very terrorists words in elections.

 JH> The GOP is doing so as a warning to the party faithful that Democrat
 JH> policies put us in harm's way to an even greater extent.  The Dems are
 JH> doing so to regain party power.

Give me a break John. The Dems are doing it to get into power, the Republicans
are doing it to stay in power.


 GB>> And of course, if the terrorists hit us, even not on our soil, just
 GB>> before the election, it drives votes to the incumbent and Republicans.
 GB>> But I don't think Republicans are sitting around hoping for a
 GB>> pre-election hit either.


 RH>>> The Democratic Party hasn't offered a single plan to accomplish the
 RH>>> objective of supporting democracy in Iraq or any other country in the

 GB>> The Democrats are just like the Republicans were before the advent of
 GB>> Newt and the Contract With America. Contrarians who are out and
 JH> want in
 GB>> and either cannot or will not formulate policy, but just point out
 JH> what
 GB>> is wrong and talk about change.

 JH> Oh, baloney, Gary.  The GOP has always had an agenda to lower taxes, get
 JH> rid of welfare, etc.  It took us a long time to overcome the Democrat
 JH> incumbents, and we couldn't have done it had Clinton not tried to make a
 JH> run on our guns and without the help of Rush Limbaugh.

And it was an, old, tired agenda that did not get them in office often.


 GB>> I love the idea of supporting and spreading democracy. I wish it
 JH> was our
 GB>> policy since we first started this country. But we have a long
 JH> record of
 GB>> supporting tyrannical dictators who in then old days just declared
 JH> they
 GB>> were anti-communist and would get help from us. In more modern times,
 GB>> all they had to be was the enemy of our enemy with no thought of what
 GB>> happens afterward. Now if they claim they are anti-terrorist, they
 JH> will
 GB>> get a pass.

 GB>> To be honest, I worry what will pass for Democracy in the Arab world.
 GB>> They could easily establish an Islamic Republic who elect their
 GB>> representatives, but still practice orthodox or even radical tenets of
 GB>> their faith and be against us and maybe even fight us.

 JH> The Arab world doesn't want democracy, and in fact, doesn't understand
 JH> it.  They want an Islamic theocracy across the entire world, subject to
 JH> Shia law.  Just because they elect representatives doesn't make them a
 JH> democratic form of government.

Time will tell.

 JH> You really need to harden your heart, Gary, and realize that they want
 JH> to kill us, and don't give a damn about such niceties as democracy and
 JH> fair play, justice, or morality.

Who, the Democrats?<g>

A heart tempered by a mind is the best combo.

Terrorists I have no love for.

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