Text 24158, 114 rader
Skriven 2006-10-30 22:45:18 av John Hull (1:123/789.0)
  Kommentar till text 24148 av Gary Braswell (1:123/789.0)
Ärende: Election
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Gary Braswell -> John Hull wrote:
 GB> John Hull -> Gary Braswell wrote:
 JH>> Gary Braswell -> RICHARD HELM wrote:


 RH>>>> One process that the Democratic Party hopes to win the majority in
 JH>> the
 RH>>>> coming election is by discouraging Republican voters confidence in
 GB>>> their
 RH>>>> elected representatives and NOT vote on or before Nov 7.  *IF* that
 GB>>> happens
 RH>>>> then by text book definition the Democratic Party HAS aided the
 GB>>> terrorists.

 GB>>> That is one process and not a new one. I don't happen to agree with
 JH>> it.
 GB>>> But why it is done makes the difference. I doubt the Democratic
 JH>> party is
 GB>>> doing it because the terrorists have said lack of Republican voter
 GB>>> turnout will help us win.

 JH>> If the Democrat Party cared a damn about what it stood for, knowing
 GB> that
 JH>> the terrorists preferred it to the GOP, they would change their
 JH>> platform.  That they don't says to me they don't give a damn.

 GB> How can you really know what the terrorists prefer? And of so, why would
 GB> they vocalize it?


 GB>>> Terrorists have stated their preference of what party is elected
 JH>> and the
 GB>>> parties are using the very terrorists words in elections.

 JH>> The GOP is doing so as a warning to the party faithful that Democrat
 JH>> policies put us in harm's way to an even greater extent.  The Dems are
 JH>> doing so to regain party power.

 GB> Give me a break John. The Dems are doing it to get into power, the
 GB> Republicans are doing it to stay in power.


 GB>>> And of course, if the terrorists hit us, even not on our soil, just
 GB>>> before the election, it drives votes to the incumbent and
 GB> Republicans.
 GB>>> But I don't think Republicans are sitting around hoping for a
 GB>>> pre-election hit either.


 RH>>>> The Democratic Party hasn't offered a single plan to accomplish the
 RH>>>> objective of supporting democracy in Iraq or any other country in
 GB> the

 GB>>> The Democrats are just like the Republicans were before the advent of
 GB>>> Newt and the Contract With America. Contrarians who are out and
 JH>> want in
 GB>>> and either cannot or will not formulate policy, but just point out
 JH>> what
 GB>>> is wrong and talk about change.

 JH>> Oh, baloney, Gary.  The GOP has always had an agenda to lower
 GB> taxes, get
 JH>> rid of welfare, etc.  It took us a long time to overcome the Democrat
 JH>> incumbents, and we couldn't have done it had Clinton not tried to
 GB> make a
 JH>> run on our guns and without the help of Rush Limbaugh.

 GB> And it was an, old, tired agenda that did not get them in office often.


 GB>>> I love the idea of supporting and spreading democracy. I wish it
 JH>> was our
 GB>>> policy since we first started this country. But we have a long
 JH>> record of
 GB>>> supporting tyrannical dictators who in then old days just declared
 JH>> they
 GB>>> were anti-communist and would get help from us. In more modern times,
 GB>>> all they had to be was the enemy of our enemy with no thought of what
 GB>>> happens afterward. Now if they claim they are anti-terrorist, they
 JH>> will
 GB>>> get a pass.

 GB>>> To be honest, I worry what will pass for Democracy in the Arab world.
 GB>>> They could easily establish an Islamic Republic who elect their
 GB>>> representatives, but still practice orthodox or even radical
 GB> tenets of
 GB>>> their faith and be against us and maybe even fight us.

 JH>> The Arab world doesn't want democracy, and in fact, doesn't understand
 JH>> it.  They want an Islamic theocracy across the entire world,
 GB> subject to
 JH>> Shia law.  Just because they elect representatives doesn't make them a
 JH>> democratic form of government.

 GB> Time will tell.

 JH>> You really need to harden your heart, Gary, and realize that they want
 JH>> to kill us, and don't give a damn about such niceties as democracy and
 JH>> fair play, justice, or morality.

 GB> Who, the Democrats?<g>

 GB> A heart tempered by a mind is the best combo.

 GB> Terrorists I have no love for.

I hate to say it, but based on what you have posted here of your beliefs, while
you aren't FOR the terrorists, you don't have what it takes to stand up to them
either.  There are times when the only thing that will save you is to simply
eliminate the enemy.  Islam will not stop until it has been destroyed or until
it takes over the world.

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