Text 24161, 138 rader
Skriven 2006-10-30 23:23:32 av Mimi Gallandt (1:123/789.0)
  Kommentar till text 24158 av John Hull (1:123/789.0)
Ärende: Election
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John Hull -> Gary Braswell wrote:
 JH> Gary Braswell -> John Hull wrote:
 GB>> John Hull -> Gary Braswell wrote:
 JH>>> Gary Braswell -> RICHARD HELM wrote:


 RH>>>>> One process that the Democratic Party hopes to win the majority in
 JH>>> the
 RH>>>>> coming election is by discouraging Republican voters confidence in
 GB>>>> their
 RH>>>>> elected representatives and NOT vote on or before Nov 7.  *IF* that
 GB>>>> happens
 RH>>>>> then by text book definition the Democratic Party HAS aided the
 GB>>>> terrorists.

 GB>>>> That is one process and not a new one. I don't happen to agree with
 JH>>> it.
 GB>>>> But why it is done makes the difference. I doubt the Democratic
 JH>>> party is
 GB>>>> doing it because the terrorists have said lack of Republican voter
 GB>>>> turnout will help us win.

 JH>>> If the Democrat Party cared a damn about what it stood for, knowing
 GB>> that
 JH>>> the terrorists preferred it to the GOP, they would change their
 JH>>> platform.  That they don't says to me they don't give a damn.

 GB>> How can you really know what the terrorists prefer? And of so, why
 JH> would
 GB>> they vocalize it?


 GB>>>> Terrorists have stated their preference of what party is elected
 JH>>> and the
 GB>>>> parties are using the very terrorists words in elections.

 JH>>> The GOP is doing so as a warning to the party faithful that Democrat
 JH>>> policies put us in harm's way to an even greater extent.  The Dems
 JH> are
 JH>>> doing so to regain party power.

 GB>> Give me a break John. The Dems are doing it to get into power, the
 GB>> Republicans are doing it to stay in power.


 GB>>>> And of course, if the terrorists hit us, even not on our soil, just
 GB>>>> before the election, it drives votes to the incumbent and
 GB>> Republicans.
 GB>>>> But I don't think Republicans are sitting around hoping for a
 GB>>>> pre-election hit either.


 RH>>>>> The Democratic Party hasn't offered a single plan to accomplish the
 RH>>>>> objective of supporting democracy in Iraq or any other country in
 GB>> the

 GB>>>> The Democrats are just like the Republicans were before the
 JH> advent of
 GB>>>> Newt and the Contract With America. Contrarians who are out and
 JH>>> want in
 GB>>>> and either cannot or will not formulate policy, but just point out
 JH>>> what
 GB>>>> is wrong and talk about change.

 JH>>> Oh, baloney, Gary.  The GOP has always had an agenda to lower
 GB>> taxes, get
 JH>>> rid of welfare, etc.  It took us a long time to overcome the Democrat
 JH>>> incumbents, and we couldn't have done it had Clinton not tried to
 GB>> make a
 JH>>> run on our guns and without the help of Rush Limbaugh.

 GB>> And it was an, old, tired agenda that did not get them in office
 JH> often.


 GB>>>> I love the idea of supporting and spreading democracy. I wish it
 JH>>> was our
 GB>>>> policy since we first started this country. But we have a long
 JH>>> record of
 GB>>>> supporting tyrannical dictators who in then old days just declared
 JH>>> they
 GB>>>> were anti-communist and would get help from us. In more modern
 JH> times,
 GB>>>> all they had to be was the enemy of our enemy with no thought of
 JH> what
 GB>>>> happens afterward. Now if they claim they are anti-terrorist, they
 JH>>> will
 GB>>>> get a pass.

 GB>>>> To be honest, I worry what will pass for Democracy in the Arab
 JH> world.
 GB>>>> They could easily establish an Islamic Republic who elect their
 GB>>>> representatives, but still practice orthodox or even radical
 GB>> tenets of
 GB>>>> their faith and be against us and maybe even fight us.

 JH>>> The Arab world doesn't want democracy, and in fact, doesn't
 JH> understand
 JH>>> it.  They want an Islamic theocracy across the entire world,
 GB>> subject to
 JH>>> Shia law.  Just because they elect representatives doesn't make
 JH> them a
 JH>>> democratic form of government.

 GB>> Time will tell.

 JH>>> You really need to harden your heart, Gary, and realize that they
 JH> want
 JH>>> to kill us, and don't give a damn about such niceties as democracy
 JH> and
 JH>>> fair play, justice, or morality.

 GB>> Who, the Democrats?<g>

 GB>> A heart tempered by a mind is the best combo.

 GB>> Terrorists I have no love for.

 JH> I hate to say it, but based on what you have posted here of your
 JH> beliefs, while you aren't FOR the terrorists, you don't have what it
 JH> takes to stand up to them either.  There are times when the only thing
 JH> that will save you is to simply eliminate the enemy.  Islam will not
 JH> stop until it has been destroyed or until it takes over the world.

Which *IS* its stated goal.

-- 
L'Chaim

Mimi

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the Word already was.

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