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Text 5393, 97 rader
Skriven 2004-11-26 18:40:30 av John Hull (1:379/1.99)
   Kommentar till text 5389 av Björn Forsström (2:203/614.61)
Ärende: Word From the Front
===========================
26 Nov 04 18:34, Björn Forsström wrote to John Hull:

 JH>> What is it with you foreigners, anyway?

 BF> I'm not a foringer, you are.

You are in a US-based echo, started by US citizens, and you are NOT in the US.
That makes you a foreigner.

 JH>> What makes you think you've got
 JH>> all the fucking answers, hmmm?

 BF> Who have said so many times to me that: "we (aka USA) are doing 
 BF> exactly what we want when we want without asking anyone. Fuck the rest of 
 BF> the world."? That must mean that YOU have all the answers and don't bother

 BF> to ask. And when I question that you totally freak out.
 BF> And who are having a problem with that? You or me?

Two different things, my man.  Sweden and a lot of other countries don't have
the guts to stand up and be counted when it comes to ridding the world of scum
like al-Qaeda, Saddam Hussein, and who knows who else.  At the same time you
castigate the US, the victim of numerous terrorist attacks, for standing up and
telling the world that we won't stand by as victims.


 JH>> Your country doesn't have a tradition of military service like ours, you 
 JH>> don't live in this country, and you aren't in Iraq.  Where do you get 
 JH>> off giving us grief when you haven't got the guts to be there helping in 
 JH>> the fight against world terrorism?

 BF> Sweden is such a big marionette to USA. We have done everythig you 
 BF> have ask from us. We have sent those 2 "terrorists" to Egypt. We still 
 BF> have innocent people on your blacklist. We have had a prisoner at 
 BF> Gantanamo that didn't get his conviction and not even have been charegd 
 BF> with a crime for over 2 years. What more can we do to please your Highness
 BF> exept from participate in a war that we don't believe in?

Yeah, we know you don't believe in it.  If it were left up to you Saddam would
still be in power, murdering and pillaging his own people and scamming the
world in the oil for food program.  You're a pacifist.  Pacifists are self-made
victims and usually end up doing things that get innocent people hurt or
killed.

 JH>> Yes, we're combat vets.  Most of us have been shot at and have had 
 JH>> to shoot at other human beings.  That soldier didn't personally 
 JH>> want to shoot anybody.  If he was given a no-fault choice he would 
 JH>> opt to go home I'm sure.  But he volunteered for military service.  
 JH>> He took an oath to serve his country, but more importantly, his is 
 JH>> there helping to free the Iraqi people.  When he goes into combat 
 JH>> he is fighting first for his comrades - his squad mates - then for 
 JH>> his country.  Everything he does is based on the training he got 
 JH>> and is intended to protect himself and his buddies so that they can 
 JH>> complete their mission.  He had no desire to shoot that goddamn 
 JH>> terrorist, but the alternative was to expose his whole squad to
 JH>> potential death.  He did the right thing, whether YOU like it or 
 JH>> not.

 BF> And who is having all the answers to this? It's no point me saying anythig

 BF> since he did the right thing wheter I like it or not. It's not even open 
 BF> for discussion.

Maybe when you start dealing with reality things won't be so difficult for you
to understand.

 JH>> When was the last time you put your ass on the line for your 
 JH>> country, eh, Bjorn?  When was the last time you were in danger of 
 JH>> being shot or blown up by some terrorist thug playing dead?  You 
 JH>> got no room to criticize the US, or that soldier, because you don't 
 JH>> have the balls to stand up for something larger than yourself.

 BF> I haven't done it because no one haven't come here to fight with 
 BF> me and I'm not seeking a war with anyone. Whatever is happening in Norway,
 BF> USA or in Iraq, it's up to the people in that country do deal with it. But
 BF> be sure I will defend my country if someone would come here and try to 
 BF> invade it, just like any other citizen in any other country. You can count

 BF> on that. And besides, what is larger than USA that you have to stand up 
 BF> for?

Just what I figured.  Turn a blind eye to the suffering and murder of others,
just because nobody has attacked you personally.  I wonder how many Swedes died
on 9/11 in the attack on the WTC?  You see, it wasn't just Americans who died,
it was people from all over the world.  Yet you don't want to get any blood on
your hands by standing up to tyranny, oppression, and murder committed by the
terrorists.  If you think the radical muslim factions are going to leave you
alone, you're delusional.  I think all of you who are against the war on
terrorism are simply cowards.

John 

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