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Text 5898, 98 rader
Skriven 2004-12-07 10:28:42 av Björn Forsström (2:203/614.61)
   Kommentar till text 5802 av Ed Connell (1:379/1.6)
Ärende: Breaking News!
======================

 EC>>>>> This marine was operating in an unsecured environment.  I.e., it was
 EC>>>>> combat.

 BrF>>>> But why didn't any of his partners do anything?

 EC>>> Like what?

 BrF>> I don't know, it's you who have all the answers.

 EC> Heh heh heh.

 EC> You don't know. <g>

No, but I have come up with some proposals.

 BrF>> I equate the killings as such but never said that either one is Ok. As
 BrF>> long there is a single American soldier in Iraq they might see it as
 BrF>> they are in combat.

 EC> Okay.  If you are not willing to argue in good faith, then why discuss?

What am I not argueing in good faith?

 EC> What do you think happens in combat?

People get killed but it shouldn't happend when lying unarmed on the floor.

 EC>>>>> The head guy is from Jordan if I am not mistaken.
 BrF>>>> That might be so, I don't know.
 EC>>> And?
 BrF>> Now I know he is.
 EC> And?

What's the difference? He still fights for what he believes in.

 BrF>> *My* mind is open and trying to see if he could have done someting else
 BrF>> but your mind is closed and only says that he did the right ting.

 EC> You don't have anything in mind, and you've how long to think about it?
 EC> This marine had to react instantly.

I know, and if it was according to the book and to his training to do so he
have
to stand for it.

  EC>>> So am I complaining?

 BrF>> I think you should concider doing that.

 EC> I like the notion that Iraqis are being freed to elect their own
 EC> government.

I think so too and I also hope that they can do the same in China and North
Korea.

 EC> I prefer the US to any of the countries that you mentioned.  You should
 EC> also include the others that are fighting in Iraq.  Besides the US and
 EC> Brittain, you should have mentioned Poland, Austrailia, and Korea to name
 EC> a few.  And don't forget the many Iraqis who are fighting and dying to
 EC> gain freedom for the Iraqi people.

But it still are very few of he worlds countries that are fighting in Iraq.
The majority aren't.

  EC>>> What countries are as free and open as the US?

 BrF>> Sweden, Noway, Finland, Denmark, England, France.....ehhh just about the
 BrF>> entire Europe. Your point?

 EC> I don't necessarily buy your list, but let's just say that I accept it for
 EC> discussion's sake.  Is it your opinion that these countries would be free
 EC> if hundreds of thousands of American's hadn't fought Hitler?

I don't care about Hitler now, we still live in countries that are just as free
or
perhaps even more free than USA.
And I don't care if you buy this or not. I live here and you don't and I know
what
freedom we have and that's enough for me.

 BrF>>>> Well, I am and the former English ambassador in Uzbekistan Craig
 BrF>>>> Murray is and the Minister of Foregin Affairs in Sweden is and so are
 BrF>>>> the entire UN and your own universities are but I can understan that
 BrF>>>> you don't. It's embarrassing for you.

 EC>>> It is?  Funny, I hadn't noticed.  That I don't accept your
 EC>>> characterization of what happened should be no surprise given the way
 EC>>> you have misrepresented so much before.

 BrF>> Before I was discussing, now I'm presenting facts that you don't like.

 EC> You are presenting characterizations that I don't believe.

That's your way to see it.

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