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Skriven 2005-02-02 14:54:00 av Darryl Perry (1:106/324)
     Kommentar till en text av John Hull
Ärende: Re: Iraqi Vote
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On 02-02-05, John Hull said...
 
JH> 02 Feb 05 08:56, Darryl Perry wrote to TIM RICHARDSON:
JH> 
JH>  DP> On 02-02-05, TIM RICHARDSON said...
JH> 
JH>  TR>> On 02-01-05, STAN HARDEGREE said to ED CONNELL:
JH>  TR>> 
JH>  TR>> EC>>> Last, I salute the Iraqi people who turned out in such
JH>  TR>> EC>>> numbers despite the real threats from the scum who oppose
JH>  TR>> EC>>> their freedom.
JH>  TR>> 
JH>  TR>> EC>>> SALUTE!
JH>  TR>> 
JH>  TR>> SH>> SALUTE!
JH>  TR>> 
JH>  TR>> SH>> And well said, sir!
JH>  TR>> 
JH>  TR>> EC> Thank you for that kindness - and one more opportunity to
JH>  TR>> EC> give a SALUTE!
JH>  TR>> 
JH>  TR>> 
JH>  TR>> SH>The Iraqi people have created (or will create) a refuge for 
JH>  TR>> SH>people in t Middle East who wish to be free.  Their courage has 
JH>  TR>> SH>sent a message to o despot in the Middle East that their days 
JH>  TR>> SH>are numbered.
JH>  TR>> 
JH>  TR>> 
JH>  TR>> The Iraqis showed more guts on Sunday than many Americans display 
JH>  TR>> every fo years; they went out and voted.
JH>  TR>> 
JH>  TR>> 
JH>  TR>> I seem to recall hearing about people having to stand in long 
JH>  TR>> lines to vot in November.
JH>  TR>> 
JH>  TR>> 
JH>  TR>> Sunday, Iraqis *gladly* stood in long lines to cast their vote for 
JH>  TR>> the fir time in many decades.
JH>  TR>> 
JH>  TR>> 
JH>  TR>> Americans drive to a polling place, and then leave simply because 
JH>  TR>> the park lot is full. Iraqis were walking to polling places, being 
JH>  TR>> carried, wheeled there in wheel chairs, going on crutches.
JH> 
JH>  DP> You can quit all your crying an whining about the lack of interest 
JH>  DP> in voting
JH>  DP> Americans.  I have a lot of friends, co-workers, aquaintences, 
JH>  DP> etc, in more
JH>  DP> than just one state.   Each and every one of the people I know, 
JH>  DP> voted during
JH>  DP> this last election.  Even some of those people I know who didn't 
JH>  DP> vote
JH>  DP> in 2000.  Several people admitted to me that they had to way over 
JH>  DP> 30 minutes,
JH>  DP> and a few, like my wife, waited over 90 minutes.
JH> 
JH>  DP> You are not going to succeed in trying to make me feel like 
JH>  DP> America is
JH>  DP> apathetic to the voting process.  It just is not true, so give it 
JH>  DP> a rest.
JH> 
JH> America IS apathetic when it comes to doing its civil and patriotic duty. 
JH> This last election may have been the biggest ever in terms of votes for 
JH> president, but it still didn't beat what the Iraqis did turnout wise.  I t
JH> its pretty damn pathetic when a country like Iraq turns in a better percen
JH> of voters than the best the US has ever done, and on their first time out 
JH> the box!
JH> 
JH> And, it matters not one whit how many people you know who voted.  The numb
JH> is statistically insignificant.  I know more people who DIDN'T vote than d
JH> Doesn't prove a thing either way in either case.

It doesn't matter one whit what the NUMBERS state.  I went out and voted,
dammit.  Don't got telling me that I didn't or that I'm apathetic or lump me
in to those who the media say just don't care.  I am America just as You are
America, and I VOTED.  Are you saying that YOU did not vote?  Are you saying
that YOU were apathetic about the vote?  Cuz I sure am not.

JH>  DP> It's wonderful that the Iraqi's are able to vote.  We'll see how 
JH>  DP> it turns out.
JH> 
JH> Yeah, right.  We can all tell from your tone that you don't think it WILL 
JH> out for the better.  And when things get dicey, you'll turn around and pos
JH> something saying "See, I told you so.  The Iraqi vote was a waste of time.
JH> something along those lines.  And if turns out to be a rousing success, we
JH> won't hear diddly from you saying "good job" or something similar.

Bullsh1t!  I've never said othewise.  There's no place in this echo
where you can find that I ever said such a thing.  And don't go
"paraphrasing" me into words I didn't say.   Democracy (and the vote in
Iraq) is a wonderful thing.  However the ends doesn't always justify the
means.  Just because the Iraqi's are voting today doesn't mean that they
will be voting ever again.  We still have to wait and see.  I am certainly
skeptical of it, that's for sure.  They had 30 years of Saddam, if they
didn't have the backbone, the drive, the want and the need of getting rid of
him, then they wouldn't have waited until we came along and handed
freedom to them on a silver platter.  They've got to want it, collectively,
as a nation for it to make a difference how this vote ends up.  Everybody's
patting themselves on the back about how they got to vote for the first time
ever.  Well lets just sit back and see what they actually voted FOR.

Gryphon, aka Darryl Perry
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