Text 9274, 130 rader
Skriven 2005-02-24 17:28:58 av Gary Braswell (1:123/789.0)
   Kommentar till text 9256 av John Hull (1:379/1.99)
Ärende: conservatives giving
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John Hull -> Gary Braswell wrote:

 JH> 23 Feb 05 22:47, Gary Braswell wrote to John Hull:

 JH>  John Hull ->> Gary Braswell wrote:
 JH>>> 22 Feb 05 23:38, Gary Braswell wrote to TIM RICHARDSON:

 GB>>>> TIM RICHARDSON -> GARY BRASWELL wrote:
 TR>>>>> On 02-22-05, GARY BRASWELL said to JOHN HULL:


 GB>>>>>> Thinking that concentrating on conservative friends who work at
 GB>>>>>> very conservative companies, I passed the document onto them. I
 GB>>>>>> also
 TR>>>>> posted it
 GB>>>>>> at where I work.

 GB>>>>>> Its been two weeks now.

 GB>>>>>> I was sure the stuff would begin to flow in from one company
 GB>>>>>> that a
 TR>>>>> friend
 GB>>>>>> works for. They have 80 people in his division and a vast
 GB>>>>>> majority are conservative who actively send patriotic items
 GB>>>>>> around the internet, staunch Bush supporters, they only allow
 GB>>>>>> Fox to be shown in the lunch room, very vocal about their
 GB>>>>>> beliefs, etc. My friend there was also certain of the response,
 GB>>>>>> he got 3 boxes ready. He emailed everyone there

 GB>>>>>> with the document and posted it. As of today, not one item or
 GB>>>>>> one penny has come from a single conservative in the office.

 GB>>>>>> The only person to contribute oddly enough is the only known
 GB>>>>>> (openly liberal) liberal in the office. He contributed to it
 GB>>>>>> immediately with a

 GB>>>>>> nice check. Another office I sent it two was of a friend who is
 GB>>>>>> probably the most conservative person I know. He is also quite
 GB>>>>>> generous. He is constantly on me all the time for my moderate
 GB>>>>>> views.

 GB>>>>>> He posted and emailed it at his office.

 GB>>>>>> Its been two weeks now and nothing, nada. The firm is painfully
 GB>>>>>> conservative. Bobby sent a very generous check himself and said
 GB>>>>>> he was ashamed of the lack of response in his office.

 GB>>>>>> A neighbor who saw me with the documents, asked to see one. He
 GB>>>>>> is one of those rare beasts, a liberal who was in the Army. He
 GB>>>>>> never saw
 TR>>>>> action, but
 GB>>>>>> asked if he could keep it.

 GB>>>>>> He works at a college. A college that has had on more than one
 GB>>>>>> occasion anti-Bush rallies. I thought nothing would come of it.

 GB>>>>>> So far its been a large response. Not in money of course with
 GB>>>>>> starving students, but goodies.

 GB>>>>>> Now what am I trying to say here? Conservatives are fakes?
 GB>>>>>> Tightwads?

 GB>>>>>> Nope. Many of you here I know are quite generous.

 GB>>>>>> What I am saying is that the liberals I see in here, day in and
 GB>>>>>> day out, generically described as evil, idiots, thieves, liars
 GB>>>>>> and against the troops are helping out our troops.

 GB>>>>>> I know there are liberals out there who hate everything dealing
 GB>>>>>> with the US, but not all are like that.

 GB>>>>>> I also know now there are a lot of mouth-only conservatives out
 GB>>>>>> there
 TR>>>>> too.

 GB>>>>>> And why? Because they are all human first.


 TR>>>>> Look, you need to wise up to something;


 TR>>>>> The war in Iraq is costing the U.S. taxpayer a pretty penny. We
 TR>>>>> aren't only
 TR>>>>> paying for the combat units doing the actual fighting, we are
 TR>>>>> also paying for
 TR>>>>> the training of the `new' Iraqi military force, doing most of
 TR>>>>> the training of
 TR>>>>> them, and also paying and supplying much `infrastructure'.


 TR>>>>> I saw a breakdown of the tax funds from each city and state in
 TR>>>>> the U.S. just
 TR>>>>> today, and I thought of it immediately I read this little whine
 TR>>>>> of yours.


 TR>>>>> Of the funds that have gone to pay the *many* facets of the war
 TR>>>>> in Iraq, 26.2
 TR>>>>> billion of it came from the state of California (thats
 TR>>>>> *Billion*, with a "B").


 TR>>>>> Broken down to cities and counties, 2.2 billion (again;
 TR>>>>> Billion....with a "B")
 TR>>>>> of that tax revenue came right from San Diego County.


 TR>>>>> We already `gave at the office' (of the local IRS).

 GB>>>> I don't have to wise up to anything.

 GB>>>> And I did not ask you for a single thing.

 JH>>> Then why are you whining about how conservatives haven't
 JH>>> contributed? Because that's exactly what it sounds like from where
 JH>>> we sit.

 GB>> Try reading it again.

 JH> I did read it, just to make sure I was getting it.  You are talking
 JH> about individuals who happen to be liberal or conservative, and
 JH> everybody else is talking about liberals and conservatives as a group.
 JH> Liberals are not noted for their generosity unless something accrues to
 JH> them in the process.  Some advantage.  And it still sounds to me like
 JH> you're giving liberals a pass.

I ma just saying you cannot paint them all with the wide strokes I see here.

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