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Skriven 2008-01-19 20:35:00 av TIM RICHARDSON
     Kommentar till en text av DAN CEPPA
Ärende: Pro-Choice
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On 01-19-08, DAN CEPPA said to TIM RICHARDSON:

-> On 18 Jan 08  13:48:00, TIM RICHARDSON got back to DAN CEPPA
-> Re: Pro-Choice

BK> It's not choice that is at issue, it's abortion.

DC>An abortion is a choice.  Amd, that choice should be up to
DC>the mother and no one else.


TR> The mother has already made a choice. In fact.....the mother has
TR> already made `several' choices:


TR> 1. To have....or `not' to have sexual relations that could result in
TR> pregnancy?  The mother chose `to have'.

DC>You are in a restaurant and get some bad shellfish.  They rush you
DC>to the hospital.  The attending physician refuses to treat you
DC>because you have the smell of the wine you drank with it on
DC>your breath....

TR> 2. To use one of `several' pregnancy-preventing methods available to
TR> her: A daily birth control pill; a post-relations pill; a diaphram;
TR> making her partner use a condom. The mother chose `none of the above'.

DC>Your evidence that a contraceptive was not usewd is?

TR> So now.......the mother wasn't responsible enough to make positive
TR> pregnancy prevention decisions in order to prevent a pregnancy to begin
TR> with....what makes anyone think:

TR> 1. The mother is now suddenly responsible enough to make the decision
TR> to kill her baby?

DC>What baby?  At 24hrs old, you'd be lucky to find a couple of cells
DC>that may be starting to divide.  Do cancer cells that may be
DC>developing in yiou have a right to survive?

TR> 2. The baby has to pay with its life because the mother is
TR> irresponsible, and too stupid for words?

DC>Are you really a mysogynist?  Or do you just play one here?


First of all......if you are going to toss a false accusation at someone, you
at least ought to spell the goddamn thing right!


Secondly.......a physician who is in an emergency room at a hospital doesn't
have the option to refuse treatment, or he (or she) wouldn't be there to
begin with!


And (following your little `scenario' a bit further) I'm sure they wouldn't
be the `only' physician who works at the hospital. NOR.....would that be the
only hospital in the city!


And thirdly.......my `evidence' that a contraceptive was not usewd (sic)?
... ...well.......the resulting pregnancy would be a real good indication...
now wouldn't it!


By the way.......your tossing out that bullshit about "Are you really a
mysogynist (sic)? Or do you just play one here?" is a direct personal slam on
your part.


We were having a nice intelligent conversation about abortion, and suddenly
the other guy starts talking about how he'd like to prevent me from
reproducing, or having me castrated. You come up with a slam aimed at me
because you are unable to deal with other people maybe not having the same
touchy-feely opinion on the abortion issue that `you' have.


You two are real intelligent people. Nice talking to you.


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