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Skriven 2006-03-20 07:59:00 av George Pope (155.survivor)
    Kommentar till text 291 av Ardith Hinton (1:153/716.0)
Ärende: School Daze
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AH>           Yes, that's pretty much how I've heard the word used too.  Some f
AH> may find it a bit of a culture shock at first.  But as with various slang t
AH> referring to ethnic origin, for example, the interpretation depends on who
AH> it & how they do it.  I see how it could be helpful if you want to find out
AH> is willing to call a spade a spade & engage in some self-deprecating humour
AH> opposed to folks who can't identify with the group & quite possibly never w
AH> "Political correctness" is for those who don't pick up on such nuances....

Well, some probably heard us and never came back, but that's probably best for
the club as a whole (& for them, too, of course!)

AH>           Heh.  First of all, I don't see you or Nora or anyone else I know
AH> has had a stroke as a "victim".  You had a setback & you got on with your l
AH> That's what SURVIVORS *do*.  A word like "victim" might be appropriate in c
AH> where there is also a "perpetrator", but in this case there isn't.  It seem
AH> me the words "victim" and "suffering" are often used by the media in an att
AH> to elicit the "Oh-you-poor-thing!" type of reaction (along with some voyeur
AH> I guess).  As Nora says, though, "I'm not a thing & I'm not poor"....  ;-)

People say, "I'm sorry," to me and I respond, "Oh, it WAS your fault, then, eh,
good, I've been looking for you!  I regret that I cannot afford to accept your
apology alone; my lawyer will be contacting you to determine an out-of-court
settlement."

AH>           Second, it's been known for some time that people who use alcohol
AH> moderation* are at *less* risk for strokes & heart attacks than teetotaller
AH> people who drink too much.  The experts don't quite agree on what moderatio
AH> or on what advantages one particular beverage confers over another... but t
AH> may be people in your life who think they know what you "should" do.  If yo
AH> really done your homework, you'll know how to consider the source... (sigh)

Yep -- that's the thinking -- I think "moderation" is best defined by self,
with an HONEST look at one's self, one's culture, lifestyle/background, etc.

The Ozark Mountain man who drinks a full quart a day of 98% alcoholic moonshine
is often less an alcoholic than some people here who have only a 6-pack a
day of 5% beers!

My doctor has told me to go ahead and have a glass of red wine a day (& an
ounce of dark chocolate!)

AH>           Although I wasn't thinking of recovery clubs in particular when I
AH> grumbling about other people's idea of "age-appropriateness", that is the o
AH> side of the coin.  As usual, we fall between the cracks.

She's 19 now, right?

AH>           Nora gets along quite well with the 65+ crowd, on an occasional b
AH> ... but a steady diet of that sort of thing wouldn't appeal to her.  And at

I'm the same way -- I get more exposure than I need living in a seniors'
building (rent subsidies for disabled work that way!)

AH> other end of the spectrum, there are summer camps for kids with disabilitie
AH> provided they're no older than eighteen!  There's not much for anyone whose
AH> is between these extremes.  We're gradually finding more information about
AH> *is* available, however, e.g. the adapted kayaking I mentioned earlier.  If
AH> don't reside within the city limits it doesn't matter very much, BTW.  A nu
AH> of the regular participants live on Vancouver Island or in the Fraser Valle
AH> the main problem, for some of us at least, is transporting the wheelchair.

You know about the Jericho Disabled Sailing Club?
And the Disability Foundation?  ( http:/www.reachdisability.org ); which is one
of Mayor Sullivan's projects -- they have MANY activities available for all
ages of disabled people. . .

I think you were describing Nora as not being necessarily very physically
challenged any more? I'm sure there are transitional-type activities, too.

The main thing on the reach site is the BC Mobility Opportunities Society
(BCMOS) http://www.disabilityfoundation.org/bcmos/index.html

which is the activity arm of the Disability Foundation.

I have a friend in there who recently wheeled the BC Trail (miles & miles of
trek).

Another one to connect with is http://www.peerzone.org which is part of the
BCPA -- I've been a part of it for a number of years -- I especially find the
Public Speaking(Toastmasters) classes helpful; and really had fun last
September in the Bus Stop Hop (like "Amazing Journey" reality show, but with
wheelchairs & using Transit around Vancouver!)

There's plenty for Nora, at her age and abilities -- I think the BCMOS might be
the best to start with. . .

There's also the Disabled Skiers Association, on the North Shore. . . if she
might want to try skiing. . . (I personally plan to try the sailing before
skiing!)

Does she remember the BBS geek who showed up at Burnaby hospital to say hi one
day way back when?


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