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Interview of the Vice President by Jonathan Karl, ABC News
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For Immediate Release
Office of the Vice President
February 21, 2007

Interview of the Vice President by Jonathan Karl, ABC News
USS Kitty Hawk Yokosuka Naval Base, Japan



3:19 P.M. (Local)

Q So, Mr. Vice President, Tony Blair is announcing that the British are
beginning their withdrawal from Iraq. Are you concerned about that?

THE VICE PRESIDENT: No, they've indicated for some time now that they were
going to make adjustments based on conditions on the ground. I think they
believe that in southern Iraq, that Basra region where they've been most
active, we have made significant progress. And I think that's one of the
reasons they feel that they can draw down their forces there. I believe
they're at the same time continuing to be very active in Afghanistan. And
they'll continue with some forces in Iraq, but it won't be the same level
it was at before.

Q But how does it look to the American people to see our most important
ally begin to pull their troops out as we're actually sending more troops
in?

THE VICE PRESIDENT: I look at it, and what I see is an affirmation of the
fact that there are parts of Iraq where things are going pretty well. The
focus that we've had, obviously, is Baghdad and the decision the President
made to surge troops into Baghdad. The Baghdad Security Plan is based on
conditions in Baghdad.

But in fact, I talked to a friend just the other day, a guy who knows the
region very well, has spent a lot of years in that part of the world who
had driven from Baghdad down to Basra in seven hours, found the situation
dramatically improved compared to where it was a year or so ago, sort of
validated the British view that they have made progress in southern Iraq,
and that they can therefore afford to reduce their force posture.

Q Now regarding the U.S. surge, the Congress is now on record opposing the
President's policy --

THE VICE PRESIDENT: Well, the House is on record with a Sense of the
Congress resolution.

Q Does it matter?

THE VICE PRESIDENT: Well, it's an important debate. I think it's important
to remember that this is a Sense of the Congress resolution, that it
doesn't have any binding impact or effect. It's still hung up in the Senate
because the Democrats haven't agreed to allow our guys to vote on a
resolution they'd like to have a vote on which would be a commitment not to
reduce funding for the troops when they're in the field. So there's a
certain amount of politics involved, I suppose.

The important thing is that we go forward with a successful strategy to
prevail in Iraq. Ultimately, this ought to be about winning in Iraq, not
about posturing on Capitol Hill. And I think the important debate will come
up down the road when we get time to vote, for example, on the
supplemental, or if there are votes in the meantime that do have a
significant impact, have a binding impact, if you will, especially with
respect to appropriations.

Q Because Congressman Murtha and Speaker Pelosi have made it clear that
what they would like to do is they would like to stop the surge. Can they
do it? Do they have the power to stop the surge?

THE VICE PRESIDENT: I don't think so. The question is whether or not they
have the votes. Jack Murtha is an old friend of mine. We've done a lot of
business together over the years. When I was Secretary of Defense, he was
perhaps my closest ally on Capitol Hill. Jack clearly has a different
perspective. With respect to Iraq, I think he's dead wrong. I think, in
fact, if we were to do what Speaker Pelosi and Congressman Murtha are
suggesting, all we'll do is validate the al Qaeda strategy. The al Qaeda
strategy is to break the will of the American people -- in fact, knowing
they can't win in a stand-up fight, try to persuade us to throw in the
towel and come home, and then they win because we quit.

I think that's exactly the wrong course to go on. I think that's the course
of action that Speaker Pelosi and Jack Murtha support. I think it would be
a huge mistake for the country.

Q Now you just made a very clear statement in your speech saying the
American people do not support a policy of retreat.

THE VICE PRESIDENT: I believe that.

Q Is that policy that we hear from the Speaker of the House, Nancy Pelosi
-- from other Democrats, is that a policy of defeat?

THE VICE PRESIDENT: Yes.

Q So the American people don't stand with the Democrats, what the Democrats
are trying to do?

THE VICE PRESIDENT: I think the American people want to see first and
foremost success in Iraq. I think the preference would be -- even those who
are not happy with the current situation, given a choice would prefer a
situation in which we succeed in Iraq in terms of being able to deal with
the security situation, turn things over to the Iraqis so the Iraqis can
govern themselves. But I think to do what Nancy Pelosi is suggesting -- and
she's made it very clear on many occasions that she, in fact, wants to get
out -- that that's exactly the wrong medicine. It's the wrong course of
action. It will do nothing but encourage the terrorists. And it will have
the devastating long-term consequences in the global war on terror.

You can't look at Iraq in isolation. You've got to look at it in terms of
its impact, what we're doing in Afghanistan, what we're doing in Pakistan,
what we're doing in Saudi Arabia. All those areas are part of the global
battlefield, if you will, and you can't quit in one place and then persuade
all your allies who are helping you in all those other theaters, if you
will, to continue the fight. So the thing we need to do is to let the
President's strategy have an opportunity to work. The Senate just confirmed
Dave Petraeus unanimously -- not a single vote against him -- and then
you've got a lot of senators turning around saying, but, we don't want to
give you the resources you need to do the job we've asked you to do for us.
So I do think that the important thing here is that we support the troops
and we support the strategy, that we give it a chance to work, and that we
not lose sight of the fact that our ultimate objective has to be victory.

Q And I wanted to ask you -- you probably heard John McCain again come out
and say that your friend Donald Rumsfeld is perhaps the worst Secretary of
Defense ever. What do you make of that?

THE VICE PRESIDENT: I just fundamentally disagree with John. John said some
nasty things about me the other day, and then next time he saw me, ran over
to me and apologized. Maybe he'll apologize to Rumsfeld.

Q So what's your take on where Secretary Rumsfeld fits in?

THE VICE PRESIDENT: I think Don's a great Secretary [sic]. I know a little
bit about the job. I've watched what he's done over there for six years. I
think he did a superb job in terms of managing the Pentagon under
extraordinarily difficult circumstances. He and John McCain had a number of
dust-ups over policy, didn't have anything to do with Iraq -- other issues
that were involved. John's entitled to his opinion. I just think he's
wrong.

Q And I know we're just about out of time, but I wanted to clarify, Senator
McCain had said that the problem with President Bush is he listened to you
too much. So this is what he was apologizing to you for?

THE VICE PRESIDENT: Yes, yes.

Q What did he say?

THE VICE PRESIDENT: Well, he came up to me on the floor a couple of days
later, the next time I was on the floor of the Senate, said he'd been
quoted out of context, and then basically offered an apology which I was
happy to accept.

Q Another senator that's been involved in this debate is, of course,
Senator Clinton. Now, Senator Clinton has been trying to figure out whether
or not she should apologize for her vote in favor of the resolution. She
has just come out and said that she is not going to apologize for that
vote, that if people want to hold that against her, they should find other
people to vote for. Do you admire that?

THE VICE PRESIDENT: Well, I think -- I'm not going to get involved in the
presidential campaign. The President and I have both sworn off commenting
on the give and take of the campaign in both parties. It's already well
underway, and so I'll withhold comment for now.

Q Mr. Vice President, appreciate it.

END 3:28 P.M. (Local)

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