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Skriven 2006-01-28 13:36:00 av Charles Scaglione (1:106/2000.0)
  Kommentar till text 15075 av Jeff Guerdat (1:123/140)
Ärende: Re: Security Now 22: The
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JEFF GUERDAT wrote to CHARLES SCAGLIONE

JG> CS> Ask the average college student sometime if he\she can extract a
JG> CS> square root without using a calculator.  The answers you'll
JG> CS> receive will amaze you. <g>

JG>Shoot, just ask me.  I learned it all those years ago and have no
JG>idea how to do it without a calculator now.  I do agree that the
JG>basics need to be learned so you can do things without technology but
JG>the practical use may cause this knowledge to dissipate with time.
JG>Fortunately, I can't recall the last time I needed to generate a
JG>square root of anything.  ;)

I probably should have defined my statement a bit more.  I was referring 
mostly to recent graduates.  I still remember how to do it probably 
because I was a math major on the way to a BSEE.  It certainly is easier 
with a calculator though. <g>

JG>BTW, here I am in Fedora FC4 on the laptop.  I got my FIDO 
JG>reader sorta working

Good old Fedora.  I haven't tried FC4 but I hear it is improved.

JG>under WINE but it blows up with too much regularity to be useful so
JG>I'm using MultiMail that I downloaded and compiled.  Good thing I'm
JG>comfortable with commandlines and doing things without a GUI or I'd
JG>have been stuck getting little things like the wireless network and
JG>ACPI suspend  using the lid close to
JG>work.

Those two are mostly what discourages users from installing any distro 
of Linux on a laptop.  My Toshiba does fairly well except for wireless.  
Even with the use of ndiswrapper I can't get it to recognize or even 
turn on my wireless bus card.  ACPI and heat control (fan speed, etc) 
work OK.  I've stayed away from WINE because I felt that I should be 
able to find and use a comparable program written for Linux.  
Unfortunately that's not easy.

Last week I spent several hours fiddling around with FSTAB while trying 
to mount my NTFS partitions so I could at least read from them while 
cruising around in Kubuntu.  Finally had to go through the WIKI for 
Kubuntu and experiment.  Shouldn't be that difficult.

JG>Linux just ain't there yet (I can hear some of my ex-admins
JG>vigorously agreeing with this statement and that was for jobs that
JG>were server-based, designing chips using Synopsys, Cadence, Mentor,
JG>etc.).  Far too many little details (and big ones) that have to be
JG>overcome to make it useful for the average person.  I can handle it
JG>but my son has no idea -  I've been helping him
JG>which is a big reason for why I'm doing all of this in the first
JG>place.  If it weren't for arcane tools like ndiswrapper (allows
JG>Windows  network drivers to be
JG>used in Linux) I'd be stuck, too.

I hear you.  For me it's mostly fun and always a challenge to do 
something in Linux which I have taken for granted with Windows.

JG>At least I have time and ability to make it work.  And for 
JG>all of those who are
JG>warming up the flame-throwers, whiners > /dev/null...  ;)

The flamers are just jealous because they can't successfully install and 
use Linux.  (Running and dodging the bullets.)  <g>

Regards.

chscag@gmail.com

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