Text 16601, 73 rader
Skriven 2007-08-02 10:41:18 av Charlie Edmondson (3077.babylon5)
  Kommentar till text 16513 av rec.arts.sf.tv.babylon5.moderated (2989.babylon5)
Ärende: Re: Is there any reasonable way to interpret "Over Here"withoutaccpetin
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Janne Mikola wrote:

> Hello,
> 
> I just watched Voices in the Dark and all the extras. First of all I 
> must say that tears started welling up in my eyes when I watched Andreas 
> and Richard memorials.
> 
> But now to the story of the Lochley-part. Both visiting actors did a 
> great job. The story would have been very great as a separate movie with 
> no connections to Babylon 5, just as a random scifi movie. But now that 
> it is part of the Babylon 5 canon, I'm having difficulties with going 
> through it.
> 
> If I recall correctly, never before has any kind of divine entity 
> interacted in Babylon 5 universe through miracles. Sure there has been 
> religion involved in very many occasions starting from Brother Theo and 
> Minbari's religious cast. Even JMS himself has stated a long time ago 
> that "religion [...] has always been present. And it will be present 200 
> years from now. That may not thrill me, but when one is a writer, one 
> must deal with realities, and that's one of them. To totally ignore that 
> part of the human equation would be as false and wrong-headed as 
> ignoring the fact that people get mad, or passionate, or strive for 
> better lives. [...] In the Babylon 5 universe, all the things that make 
> us human -- our obsessions, our interests, our language, our culture, 
> our flaws and our wonderfulnesses -- are all still intact.". I know this 
> may sound weird to some of you, but simply put: I don't have any 
> problems with supernatural, it is divine elements of religions I have 
> trouble with.
> 
> Yes, there has been religion involved before. But this time it was 
> different, now it seems that it is part of the Babylon 5 canon that god 
> and devil exist and they're able to perform miracles, and even are doing 
> them, and at least the devil is speaking directly with mortal people 
> through his minions withs words which can be heard and recorded. Put in 
> extravagant way - it should be from now on always speculated that why 
> doesn't Lochley seek for divine intervention when B5 is in trouble.
> 
> This is kind of hard to accept as an atheist (JMS has stated he's an 
> atheist too, btw). Because as JMS said in the extras of the DVD, Babylon 
> 5 universe works for me as a place to go to "playing" with people I'm 
> come to like and know. I know I'm getting lots of "get over with it, 
> it's just a story" -type replies to this message, and of course I will 
> "get over with it". It's not about that.
> 
> During the second half of the Over Here I was all the time waiting for 
> some small signals somewhere which would hint that the allegedly 
> possessed person really wasn't possessed - that it would be some plot of 
> let's say Drakh or other Shadow-minions. Or some kind of chain of events 
> which would have caused so much doubt that for instance Lochley would 
> have said that "she doesn't anymore know what that was", or such. Or 
> mental instability of people, self-suggestion of priest and malfunction 
> of Babylon 5 scanners. Whatever. But there weren't any. God and devil 
> from now on exist in Babylon 5 universe, and in any situation it is 
> possible that they're interacting and intervening again.
> 
> Share your thoughts.
> 
Hi Jane,
Sorry that your universe can't allow the possiblity that Lockley is 
right, and it actually IS a real, live, firebreathing demon.  And that 
God did cast them down back in the depths of time, and that they both do 
exist in the B5 universe.  Now, it has been made pretty clear that God 
doesn't 'directly' intervene in the B5 universe, but he has been 
mentioned and acknowledged all through the series, from many points of 
view!  8-)

Joe didn't limit himself to only dealing with the mundane, he included 
the Holy as well!

Charlie
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