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  Kommentar till text 17357 av rec.arts.sf.tv.babylon5.moderated (3834.babylon5)
Ärende: Re: Newsgroup back!
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On Aug 18, 7:38 pm, "Dennis \(Icarus\)" <ala_dir_di...@yahoo.com>
wrote:
> <StarFur...@aol.com> wrote in message
>
> news:1187474168.428462.214320@k79g2000hse.googlegroups.com...
>
> > > <StarFur...@aol.com> wrote in message
> > > > >http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_Wide_Web
> > > > > "The Web was created in 1989 by the Englishman Sir Tim Berners-Lee
> and
> > > the
> > > > > Belgian Robert Cailliau working at CERN in Geneva, Switzerland."
>
> > > >          Well, since we're citing Wikipedia (as one other person did
> > > > here already besides) allow me to as well:
>
> > > > "Usenet (USEr NETwork) is a global, decentralized, distributed
> > > > Internet discussion system that evolved from a general purpose UUCP
> > > > architecture of the same name. It was conceived by Duke University
> > > > graduate students Tom Truscott and Jim Ellis in 1979. Users read and
> > > > post e-mail-like messages (called "articles" or "posts") to one or
> > > > more of a number of categories, called newsgroups. Usenet resembles
> > > > bulletin board systems (BBS) in most respects. It resembled the first
> > > > earliest forms of Internet forums."
> > > >http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Usenet
>
> > On Aug 18, 7:42 am, "Dennis \(Icarus\)" <ala_dir_di...@yahoo.com>
> > wrote:
> > > And this proves your contention that Usenet is "the web" in what manner?
>
> >         You're kidding, right?
>
> >         Look, it's not my intent to in any way be sarcastic here, but
> > you did see the "Internet" specifically referred to twice in that
> > cited passage I take it.
>
> What I was questioning was your assertion that "usenet is 'the web'".
>
>
>
> > > The web is different from Usenet.
>
> Good that you see this.

        I didn't write that.

        Usenet is a part of the Internet - It has always been
considered a part of the Internet. If I might quote from the Wiki
portion that I cited once again, which makes this quite clear, it
states as follows:

> > "Usenet (USEr NETwork) is a global, decentralized, distributed
> > Internet discussion system

        Okay? I mean, you really need not look any further than that
for the purposes of this discussion. It's clear.

> However, what you wrote was the
following:http://groups.google.com/group/rec.arts.sf.tv.babylon5.moderated/msg/...

> <quote>
>         Actually, you're quite wrong on that point. Usenet *is* "the
> Web."

        I know what I wrote, and I stand by it. If it isn't the Web,
or an integral part of the Web, how are people communicating via it?

        Look, this isn't really that difficult, and people can split
hairs over it if they want to, but in my view this is a pretty good
example of how I've said one thing here, provided data which supports
it even, and then had someone try and make it sound as though it's an
orange rather than an apple.

        You can call Usenet its own unique system if you want to --
technical there's something to that, but the fact remains that it is
merged with the Internet, and is technically a part of it, and pretty
much always has been, bottom line.
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