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Skriven 2007-03-14 13:17:42 av alexander koryagin
   Kommentar till text 1652 av Bob Ackley (1:2905/3)
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From: "alexander koryagin" <koryagin@erec.ru>

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Hi, Bob Ackley!

 AK>>>> Because there is no Al-Queda in Iran for a while, and there is some
 AK>>>> law and order. By the way it is just another occasion to think do
 AK>>>> America needs Al-quaeda in Iran also.

 PC>>>   The Al-Queda wasn't in Iran before, because Iraq and Iran were at
 PC>>> war, and there was no point, as they wanted to engage the USA. After
 PC>>> the USA was in Iraq, as mentioned, Iran became a way or route to
 PC>>> Iraq, and for the reason stated.

 BA> bin Laden, the founder and presumably still head of al-Qaeda, started
 BA> out fighting the Russian forces occupying Afghanistan.
 BA> He is quite likely considered a hero in that country, even today.
 BA> Anyhow, al-Qaeda is an outgrowth of his activities during that period.

Officially Al-Queda was established (was mentioned the first time) in 1988
(or rather in 1994); and just at that time, fuguratively speaking, from two
enimies of Bin-Laden had remained only one. No doubt that Bin Laden has been
highly regarded in Afganistan and it would have been easy for him to hide in
mountains if former Afgan government had tried to extradite him.

 BA>  After Russia pulled her forces out of Afghanistan
 BA> he needed another enemy to fight in order to keep his organization
 BA> together, and decided it would be the US; that was around 1991 or
 BA> 1992.  His original beef with the US (and with the Saudi government)
 BA> was the fact that the Saudi government allowed the US to station forces
 BA> on its soil - although they were kept hundreds of miles away from the
 BA> Islamic holy cities.

So, I as just have said, the second enimy was already. Of course it was
Israel and its main ally - the US. Imho it is obvious.

 ak>> Al-queda as I heard is the Sunni branch of Islam, whereas Iran
 ak>> represents the Shia branch. But common enemy makes it easy to form
 ak>> very strange unions.

 BA> I don't think that al-Qaeda is affiliated with any particular branch of
 BA> Islam. Iran and Iraq are the only Muslim countries that are majority
 BA> Shia, all of the others - most specifically Saudi Arabia - are majority
 BA> Sunni.

In general, I strongly believe that it is almost impossible for Shia and
Sunni fright each other on the ground of discrepancies in their religious
traditions. The fight can be on the ground of fighting for political power
and issues of collaboration with ocupation forces. If we see at present day
nightmare in Iraq we will see that most of corpses directly or indirectly
connected with victim's collaboration with pro-amirican governmen, police or
with occupation forces. So faith  is not the reason of today's Iraqi civil
war, although some acts of sectarian revenge can make us to think this way.


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 AK>>>> Was it an easy task for Taliban to catch Ben
 AK>>>> Laden and extradite him? Who knows, but for example general Mladich
 AK>>>> so far cannot be caught by pro-western government of Serbia, which
 AK>>>> wants to do it.

 BA> They *say* they want to do it.  I don't think the Serbian government is
 BA> as pro-western as you seem to think it is.  The current administration
 BA> has done more to alienate this country from just about every other
 BA> country on the planet than any other administration in the past century
 BA> or more.

And what the present government of Serbia has done for such an alienation? I
remember, for example, they arrested and extradited Miloshovish to Hague
trubunal - the highly unpopular move. If they don't want to lose Kosovo I
can understand it - Kosovo is the ancient serbs land which was captured by
the Ottoman Empire and Orthodox slavonic population was forcedly expelled or
turned to Islam. Albanians (they also were forcedly turned to Islam) became
majoriry only in 19-th century.

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 ak>> Just opposite - the invasion in Afganistan provides best
 ak>> agitation among moslems to join Al-Queda.

 BA> Several commentators and other ordinary folks have noted that Mr. Bush
 BA> is the best recruiter that al-Qaeda has ever had.

No wonder that Al-Queda has become so numerous.

[...Without justice, courage is weak]
Bye Bob!
Alexander
fido7.english-tutor 2007



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