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Skriven 2006-01-21 21:47:08 av Philip Lozier (1:267/169)
  Kommentar till text 23308 av Dan Ceppa (1:138/666.0)
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 PL>> between a person over 16 and one from 12 to 16 is legal is the
 PL>> underaged person gives consent... with or without the parents consent.

 DC> I think I found the same web page on that.

ageofconsent.com or something liek that.

 PL>> This is almost scary, as the first thing I thought was if consent is
 PL>> needed to be given by those under 16, those instances with both
 PL>> parties over 16 can have non consensual sex?  Legalized rape? It can't
 PL>> be so! However, just by the fact that 12 year olds can give consent
 PL>> for sex, the later wouldn't suprise me.

 DC> The whole idea of that would be funny if kids' lives weren't
 DC> involved.

There is nothing even close to borderline funny about it IMO.

Really sux too that this very night I saw part of a program (not a story of a
true event, but none the less...) that involved a boy being kidnapped, put on
kiddie porn sites, later murdered, and a whole lot fo other crap... all to
satisfy the sick perversions of a bunch of freaks. I was doing something else
and all of a sudden it caught my attention away from my project... had to
change it after a few minutes.  I really needed to see that during the
timeframe of this "discussion" here... hmph.  Put me in a real bad way
actually.  Ill behavior (putting it mildly) towards children is not something I
let rest easy.  If I kept a list of conditions I would justify myself in
killing somebody brutaly without remorse, or fear of the consequences, that
would be in the top 5.

 PL>> Wine her, dine, her, and she's putting out wether she wants to or not?
 PL>> Hell... they're REAL men over there!  No woman is going to take
 PL>> advantage of a REAL man.

 DC> From what I read, the idea is to remove all parental control
 DC> and hand it to the State.

Progressive country, huh?

 DC>> I can't believe that Mikey is trying to defend that pedophile...

 PL>> I can't either... but then again I can.  Not because he condones
 PL>> pedophiles, but because the pedophile was prosecuted by the USA.  The

 DC> I don't care were the pedophile is.  They are predators that have
 DC> no place in society.

No place in society, or custody even... physical remains belong six feet under,
soul to rot in hell.

 PL>> anti-USA obsession clouds any and all judgement, and supercedes any
 PL>> rational thought or reasoning, damn morals or any other issue, if the
 PL>> USA did it it's just plain WRONG, WRONG, WRONG!  No matter what!

 DC> That's Mikey's problem.   That he wishes to defend a pedophile
 DC> shows how deep his hatred lies.

Yup.  Exactly.  I believe that, -really-, it disgusts him as much as it does
some of us here, but his hatred for the US is so deep that he can't even bend
on that one, just because it was the US who prosecuted him.

Wonder how he would feel if Blom had been trying to screw a 14 year old girl,
or a woman of ANY age for that matter, in one of those countries some here like
to defend so much here whose religious laws would require him to be put to
death, horribly no less.  I wonder if Mike would be saying "he got what he
deserved" then, considering it -wasn't- done by the US.

 PL>> I figured this out from the outset of the discussion... wasn't hard...
 PL>> right there for anybody to see.  Even his other anti-USA cronies have
 PL>> had the sense enough to stay out of this one because at least their
 PL>> morals allow a line to be drawn that would be considered tabu to
 PL>> cross... I commend them for this.  In the case of Mr. Van der Vlist

 DC> At least a few of them have kids and would not put up with the
 DC> likes of Blom being anywhere near them.

If more people could make the judgement that "just because something is legal,
doesn't make it right", and don't think in the respects of "if it
isn't strictly forbiden I -can- do it, and -will-" there wouldn't be a
need for as many laws as there are.

Phil

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