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Skriven 2006-10-19 19:45:01 av Michiel van der Vlist (2:280/5555)
  Kommentar till text 41591 av Jeff Smith (1:14/0)
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Hello Jeff!


 JS>>>      It was her decision to do what she did.

 MV>> Right. And so *she* is responsible for that and no one else.

 JS>      Just as you are for what you did. The point is that what she did
 JS> would not have happened if you hadn't played your copyright game.

Possibly. That does not make me responsible. I dropped the stick. She picked it
up and beat the dog. Dropping the stick (without even being aware it was a
stick at the time) does not make me responsible for beating the dog.

 MV>> Does not alter the fact that the *she* send the DUD file. Her
 MV>> action, her decision.

 JS>      That decision of hers should not have been nessesary.

Who says it was nessecary?

That too was her decision. *She* deemed it necessary. She consulted no one, she
just did it. On the basis of *her* judgement that it was necessary.

I see no necessity at all.

 JS>>> that she took and be willing to explain why. How come you
 JS>>> continue to deny your responsibility for your actions and don't
 JS>>> want people to know why?

Why do you persist in holding me responsible for the actions and decisons of
Janis?

 JS>>>      I asked you a simple question Michiel.

 MV>> Which I suspect to be a trick question.

 JS>       If you are so quick to suspect and mistrust people.

I did not get where I m now if I was to easy in trusting people.


 MV>> Ok, you want to know my opinion? I think she thought she had
 MV>> found the stick to hit the dog she had been wanting to hit for
 MV>> some time. It is no secret that Janis is no fan of Björn and she
 MV>> added some oil on the fire of those wanting him out.

 MV>> She played the old game of Khontrol. She rattled the weapon of
 MV>> the distribution. She wanted to show her power. She just forgot
 MV>> that these days nobody needs her Filegate to distribute FidoNews
 MV>> any more. FidoNet over IP freed us from the tyranny of the
 MV>> distributors. She just didn't get that.

 JS>      Now don't you feel better now?

No, not really. And I l knew that in advance. One of the reasons why I was
reluctant to give my opinon. I knew it would lead nowhere and just be a waste
of time.

 JS>  <g> Thanks for the answer.

Do you feel better now?

 MV>>>> It was her decison and her decison only nevertheless. Only she
 MV>>>> is resposible for that decision.

 JS>>>      Just as you should be for yours. Correct?

 MV>> Of course. What decision of mine should I take responsibility for
 MV>> you think?

 JS>      That of deciding to use the Fidonews to make your point.

Oh, I take full responsibilit for that.

 JS>  And the effect that that decison has had.

No, I do not take responsibility for the effect as the effect is the result of
the actions and decisions of others. Mostly Janis.

Her reaction was totally unpredictable and way out of line. I take no
responsibility for that.

 JS>  That being the increased bad feelings by people towards you,

The needle was already pushing the stop. So that does not impress me.

 JS>  towards Björn and the increased division between the zones.

Nothing much to lose there either.

 JS>>>      Well look at what your way has accomplished. Nothing,
 JS>>> diddly, squat, zip, zilch, nada, zero, naught, zippo.

 MV>> Considering the history, in my estimation the present situation
 MV>> is the best that can be achieved. It is not perfect, but this is
 MV>> as good as it gets.

 MV>> I am willing to accept the situation as it is.

 MV>> Why won't you?

 JS>     Because it can be better.

And frozen pigs will fly in hell.

 JS>>> turn out to be the best. What I am saying is if one way doesn't
 JS>>> work why avoid trying other ways?

 MV>> Because in my estimate your cure is worse than the disease.

 JS>      The disease looks to be terminal if we don't try something.

The patient has been stable for two years. He can still go a long way. If we
just leave him alone..,


Cheers, Michiel

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