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Skriven 2011-04-20 14:05:17 av Roy Witt (1:387/22)
  Kommentar till text 17132 av WAYNE CHIRNSIDE (1:123/140)
Ärende: Taxes (was: Australia
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19 Apr 11 18:50, WAYNE CHIRNSIDE wrote to ROY WITT:

 WC> -=> ROY WITT wrote to WAYNE CHIRNSIDE <=-

 RW>> 18 Apr 11 15:10, WAYNE CHIRNSIDE wrote to MARK HOFMANN:

 >>> Two questions.
 >>>
 >>> How did we _help_ Iraq?
 >>> How would oil taken from Iraq be free?

 MH>>> Any time a dictator is removed from power, that is a good thing.
 MH>>> Those days are long gone.  The people - especially the women, now
 MH>>> have freedom to be educated and not kept stupid so that the powers
 MH>>> that be - remain in power.

 WC>> So how do you defend the U.S. overthrowing a democratically elected
 WC>> leader in Iran and installing the Shah?

 RW>> No need! The Shah was the second and last monarch of the House of
 RW>> Pahlavi of the Iranian monarchy. He came to power with the overthrow
 RW>> of Ahmad Shah Qajar, the last ruler of the Qajar dynasty, who had
 RW>> abdicated his throne to live in France, having been weakened by the
 RW>> Soviet and British occupation of Iran.

 WC>> He was a dictator.

 RW>> The National Assembly of Iran, known as the Majlis, convening as a
 RW>> constituent assembly on December 12, 1925, deposed the young Ahmad
 RW>> Shah Qajar, and declared Reza Shah the new monarch of the Imperial
 RW>> State of Persia. The National Assembly of Iran changed Persia's name
 RW>> to Iran about ten years later.

 WC>> Why did we install Saddam Hussein as the dictator of Iraq in the
 WC>> first place?

 RW>> We didn't.

 RW>> * The Baath Party seized power of the Iraqi government in 1968 with
 RW>> the
 RW>>   organizational help of Saddam Hussein.

 RW>> * From 1968-1977, Hussein rises through the ranks of the Baath
 RW>> Party. He
 RW>>   begins as a central figure but gathers more power during this
 RW>> time.

 RW>> * In 1977, he assumes control of the government with the present
 RW>> Baath
 RW>>   Party leader Bakr's health ailing.

 RW>> * On July 16, 1979 Bakr formally steps down and Hussein begins to
 RW>> take
 RW>>   formal control.

 RW>> * The next few weeks are a period of purging and consolidation on
 RW>>   Hussein's part.

 RW>> I don't read anything that says the USA was instrumental to the
 RW>> support of or 'installation to power' mentioned anywhere in the rise
 RW>> of SH to leader of Iraq.

 WC>> You might want to drop this debate as if you look too closely into
 WC>> these matters you may not really like what you find out.

 RW>> You've already lost it by repeating the liberal mantra of untruths.

 WC>> Dick Cheney and Halliburton for instance were both Saddam supporters
 WC>> and suppliers, up until the time they weren't.

 WC> You're a lost cause.

Not nearly as lost as you...

 WC> Apparently you consider the vested corporate interests of the
 WC> obscenely wealthy minority more worthwhile than the long term
 WC> stability and health of your own country.

I'm one among them, so yes, I prefer that the truth be told.

 WC> Here's a clue.

You've never had one to give.


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