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Skriven 2013-09-13 10:35:49 av alexander koryagin (2:5020/2140.2)
  Kommentar till text 10230 av Roy Witt (1:387/22)
Ärende: Re: Putin Blinks
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Hi, Roy Witt!
I read your message from 12.09.2013 10:50

 ak>> There are no countries in the world where the US' bloody help has
 ak>> provided peace and prosperity.

 RW> You're probably a little too young to remember this, but the US'
 RW> (sic) bloody help sustained a peaceful Europe and Japan. There has
 RW> been peace in Europe since we (USA, UK and USSR) brought the bloody
 RW> German regime to an end in 1945. Oh, and while we were at it (UK
 RW> and USA) brought peace to north Africa, until a bunch of Al Queda
 RW> mongrols thought it was time to break that peace.

   The USSR, the US and the UK did many good during the WWII, but it was
exactly they who planted a delayed action mine of violence in the Middle
East, after the WWII. Which had blown up, afterwards, and gave birth to
hatred and terror, that poison the life of the world now.

 RW> In Japan, we brought about peace on our own with a little help from
 RW> the already strapped for materials and troops - Brits and maybe a
 RW> small amount of help from the Aussies. Inevitably, it was the US'
 RW> (sic) destroyed at Pearl Harbor navy, and aircraft that brought
 RW> that about.

   The prosperity of Japan and Germany can be explained by a more simple
thing -- after WWII they spend all their money to civilian industry,
because they were prohibited to have military forces. No other country
is guilty of their prosperity. If the USSR had spent his money for
civilian purposes it would have probably built communism.

 RW> It was hillarious how the USSR declared war on Japan after they had
 RW> already surrendered to the US' (sic) presence in Tokyo Bay... all
 RW> the USSR was doing at that time was an attempt to regain an island
 RW> lost to the Japanese in an earlier conflict between them in 1906...

   If you read a history book (not from the US) you'd learn that Japan
capitulated on September 2, and the USSR declared war on Japan on August
8 (according to Yalta agreement). So, the USSR had a month of bloody war
in Korea and China occupied by Japan. Do you really think that it was
the US who defeated Japan in China and Korea? The USSR lost almost 14
thousand troops in that 1 month war. Besides that, during the WWII,
Japan made the USSR keep enormous amount of troops at Far East,
weakening its army which fought with Hitler. For the USSR, it meant
additional losses of lives. So, although Japan didn't actively fought
with the USSR until 1945, it actually did fight with it indirectly,
having provided big help for Hitler's troops.

   That's why it is fair that Japan should have paid the USSR
reparations in form of some islands which were captured by Japan in
1906. The USSR didn't occupy Japan and had no other reparations. More of
that, until now there is no peace treaty between Japan and Russia. We
are technically in the state of war.

 WD>>> BTW, I'm certain the USA has'm also despited having signed and
 WD>>> rattified the relevant treaties.
 ak>> So, it is fact that rebels have chemical weapon.
 RW> That has yet to be proven... Assad says they do, but it may or may
 RW> not be true. I would tend not to believe anything a person such as
 RW> Assad has to say, when it is quite clear that he has killed women &
 RW> children for no good reason.

   Nobody kills women & children for no good reason. Even Nazy had
reason when they killed civilians in revenge for the Russian partisan
underground activity. But Damask was Assad's stronghold, it didn't
participate in the war against him until some of its suburbs had been
captured by the rebels. Civilians had no time to leave those areas. So,
these civilians were not relatives of the rebels and the revenge on them
was senseless from the side of Assad even if he were a Hitler personified.

 RW> Assad is classified just as Saddam Huisein was, a killer of
 RW> innocent by standers whose only crime is being in the vacinity.

   You must understand that killing 1400 civilians could not help him to
win the war, in any way. That's why he could not do it. No reason. But
some rebels do have reason to frame Assad.

 RW> Although it is also quite clear that Putin is a whole lot smarter
 RW> than our stupid President, that isn't saying anything that we don't
 RW> know already. Fortunately we have a Congress that won't allow him
 RW> to do something stupid in Syria.

   Do the Americans see those "indisputable" evidences against Assad? Or
you take them on faith? The only "evidence" that Kerry said was that
"chemical weapon cannot be produced by the rebels, so it means it was
used by the government forces." It is a very poor logic.

 ak>> Most probably they will use it in future. And the only way to stop
 ak>> further escalation is to make both sides to negotiate without any
 ak>> preconditons.
 RW> I believe it would serve world peace much better if both sides were
 RW> equally armed and let them fight it out. Let Allah sort out the
 RW> good from the bad.

   You are mistaken. The longer a war lasts the more merciless fighters
it produces. A war trains people better than any training exercises in
peace time. So, in short time, Israel, for instance, will find itself
surrounded by thousands of fighters, capable to crawl up to everywhere
and kill and poison everyone, not sparing their own lives. To fight
among civilians becomes their profession. When they capture some Israeli
towns the Israeli will understand what does it mean to fight among
civilians, when enemy fighters ran from one place to another through
walls, and use civilians as a shield. But if in Gaza the Israeli bombed
them anyway (they are all Arabs, after all), what will they do when
civilians be Israeli children and women themselves?

Bye, Roy!
Alexander Koryagin
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