Text 10549, 64 rader
Skriven 2013-10-02 12:52:03 av alexander koryagin (2:5020/2140.2)
  Kommentar till text 10543 av Roy Witt (1:387/22)
Ärende: Re: Putin Blinks
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Hi, Roy Witt!
I read your message from 30.09.2013 14:26

  RW>>> The 1st bomb (which was the 2nd bomb) on Hiroshima was another
  RW>>> test of a 'different' type of atom bomb. There were two types in
  RW>>> exisitance at the time.

  ak>> Yeah, it was a very interesting scientific question, after burning
  ak>> 150 thousand people with the first bomb! Would a plutonium bomb
  ak>> kill more people or less than a uranium one?
  RW> But instead of practice, it was an incentive for Japan to
  RW> surrender, unconditionally. Otherwise, there would have been an
  RW> invasion of Japan and the casuallty count would have been in the
  RW> millions, including Japanese, Americans and any other forces
  RW> involved. It was deemed better to lose a couple hundred thousand
  RW> enemy than Americans and enemies in the millions. This would have
  RW> included a lot of Ruskies, as they were already chomping at the
  RW> bit, ready to get 'even' with the Japs for who knows what.

It was America who wanted to get 'even' I believe it was for the Pearl 
Harbor attack. As for the USSR, the small Kuril  islands  were and have 
been now a low value territories. Fish was caught in the Sea of Okhotsk 
and have been caught now by both Russians and Japanese. Probably, the 
Kurils have some strategic value for Russia, for instance, like the 
Folklend islands, for the UK.

As for an incentive for Japan, I can say that if the Americans had 
dropped their bombs in the vicinity of Hiroshima and Nagasaki the 
civilian damage would have been small, but the Japanese would have seen 
clearly the bombs power. And then America could threaten Japan that next 
time such bombs would be dropped, for instance, on Tokio where the 
government and Emperor were.

  ak>>>> So, your argument is poor.
  RW>>> Not at all. President Truman wrote in his diary that he had
  RW>>> ordered the bomb dropped on a "purely military" target, so that
  RW>>> "military objectives and soldiers and sailors are the target and
  RW>>> not women and children."
  ak>> Lie doesn't help in this case.
  RW> An omission of a Presidential request in a military order isn't a
  RW> lie... at worst it could be considered neglect to pay attention by
  RW> the SoW.

  ak>> If the bombs, for instance in Hiroshima, had been dropped on ships
  ak>> in the sea port area it could have some sense, but in reality the
  ak>> bomb had been dropped in the city's center, on the residential
  ak>> area.

  RW> Actually, an atom bomb is timed to explode above the ground,
  RW> spreading the maximum energy more than it would if it were exploded
  RW> at ground level or lower. As much as it weighs, that would have
  RW> been a cavern the size of the Grand Canyon in Arizona. Exploding a
  RW> bomb underground makes a big hole, but the energy is deflected
  RW> straight up.

I said not of the height of the dropping but of the place.

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Bye, Roy!
Alexander Koryagin
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