Text 5437, 149 rader
Skriven 2004-11-28 18:32:36 av Björn Forsström (2:203/614.61)
   Kommentar till text 5379 av John Hull (1:379/1.99)
Ärende: Word From the Front
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 BF>> As I said, let's leave WWII behind us, it's got nothing to do with what's
 BF>> going on now and the war in Iraq you took on yourself and not listen to
 BF>> the UN.

 JH> No, you can't have it both ways.  WWII is relevant because it led to the
 JH> US becoming the No. 1 Superpower in the world, and you seem to want to
 JH> blame much of what happens in the world today on the fact that we are a
 JH> superpower.  You give the impression that our mere existence is what
 JH> causes people to hate us.dddddd

Your actoins speeks for itself and as I have said before, with beeing the
No. 1 Superpower comes a certain responsibility that you so far haven't
lived up to and as long as you don't, you will get that treatment from the
rest of the world.

 BF>> Then you should do it for the right reason and attack the right country
 BF>> and go find bin Laden instead. What we can see now is that you attacked
 BF>> Iraq because they had WMD:s and those you are fighting are
 BF>> Jordanians.....

 JH> If you continue to believe the anti-American media bullshit, then there is
 JH> nothing to talk about.

I think I have heard that GWB have said that Iraq had WMD:s and the media
only printed what ha said. Am I wrong here?

 JH> WMDs was only a small part of why we went into
 JH> Iraq. Everybody tries to say there is no connection between Saddam/Iraq
 JH> and al-Queda, yet as time goes by, more and more evidence is piled up that
 JH> shows they were indeed connected on many levels.

And you can prove that?

 JH> You also don't seem to
 JH> get it that it doesn't matter what nationality the terrorists are.  We
 JH> said we would hunt them down no matter where they were or what country
 JH> they came from, and that any country that gave them aid or safe haven
 JH> would get the same treatment they get.  There was not then and has not
 JH> been now, any specific mention of any particular country.

So when you are finished with Iraq you will move on to Syria, Jordan and Iran?

 JH> You had better get onto the internet and do some serious searching for
 JH> facts.  You have no idea how little of what you have said here is
 JH> accurate.

Some of you says that Internet is only full of anti-American crap and you
say it's good. How are we going to have it?

 JH> Michael Moore is an idiot, a liar, and a pig.  There is a documented list
 JH> of over 50 major discrepancies found in that "documentary" of his.  He is
 JH> a left-wing socialist who hates George Bush.  He could no more make a fair
 JH> and open-minded movie about Bush than I go to the moon without a
 JH> spaceship.

Funny. This statement didn't surprise me a bit.

 BF>> If what you say would have happend, Europe, Russia, Asia and the rest of
 BF>> the world would have become so powerful so they would have wiped out USA
 BF>> in a week and that the Americans understood so they had to do something
 BF>> about it. So, you see that USA have never done anything that haven't
 BF>> suited themself, just like any other nation on this earth. Everyone is
 BF>> always closest to himself.

 JH> Man, you have really bought into the anti-US propoganda, haven't you?

No, but I'm trying to see what could have happend.

 TR>>> So fuck the world.

 BF>> With this attitude someone is always going to be pissed of at you and
 BF>> trying to do something about it. Unfortunatly it's the innocent and
 BF>> civilians in USA that pays the prize for it and as long as you are
 BF>> keeping it up you will see even more attacks like 9/11.

 JH> Why the hell should we kiss everybody's ass just so we can be "liked" by
 JH> the rest of the world.  The rest of the world, historically speaking, has
 JH> been wallowing in corruption, slavery, and tyranny for thousands of years
 JH> before the US came along and came up with a better way of doing things.

SIGH!!!!
Wallowing in corruption and slavery?
WOW, Are you the right person to speek about that?
How many corruption scandals have you had in USA?
When was the blacks freed from their slavery?

Where have you been for the last 50 years?
Are you still fighting in the WWII?

 JH> We are unique in human history as far as nation-states go, and the rest of
 JH> the world just can't stand the fact that we threw off the yoke of imperial
 JH> oppression.

For your knowledge, even we did that several hundred years ago.

 JH> Maybe its because none of the rest of you seem to have the balls to do the
 JH> same thing, maybe its just inertia.  I don't know.  But one thing I do
 JH> know is that you Europeans are in too many cases a bunch of ingrates.  You
 JH> come begging for our help when the big bad wolf comes along and tries to
 JH> eat you, and after we've saved your butts you don't even have the decency
 JH> to say thank you and mean it.

This is gettin a bit boring.
You keep repeting yourself without coming with any new things.
So all you want is to see Europe on it's knee, krawling in the gutters for you?
You can forget about that cause it aint gonna  happend so why not go on
with your lives and stop spewing your intestines over us and then we might
do the same in return.

It do work in both ways!


 JH> You want all the high tech improvements we
 JH> come up with that make life easier, but you don't want to pay your fair
 JH> share for the cost of it, and then bitch because your country is getting
 JH> too Americanized.

Who says we doesn't pay.
And for your knowledge you buy the high tech wapon Carl Gustav from us.

 JH> America is not perfect - not as a nation and not as individuals.  But we
 JH> try not to make things worse.  We are a generous people, and have freely
 JH> given of our wealth, our food, our technology, and our blood to help
 JH> people around the world, and all we get for it is abuse, disrespect, and
 JH> hatred.

I think Sweden is paying, per capita, more then USA does in help to other
countries.

 JH> We ought to let the whole damn bunch of you go to hell in a handbasket.

And who will then make your buisnnes and factorys go around?

 JH> Now, you don't like my attitude much, do you?  Tough.  It is incumbent on
 JH> YOU to show me why I should NOT have such an attitude.  Prove to me that
 JH> someone out there across the ocean isn't just another jealous,
 JH> brain-washed anti-American.  Convince me why we shouldn't just write all
 JH> of you off as a waste of humanity.

You know, talking to a fanatic like you is the same thing as talking to bin
Laden
or that Zarquawi guy. You all believe in your own truth so hard it almost
impossible to have a normal conversation.
No wonder why war exists. They will keep coming as long as people like you
exist that doesn't have any other thoughts than you own.

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